PEP453 // ensurepip // pip

[Robert Kuska]

Hi Donald,

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Stufft" <donald at stufft.io>
> To: python-devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:19:49 PM
> Subject: PEP453 // ensurepip // pip
> 
> Hey there,
> 
> So I’m one of the authors of PEP453, the original implementor of ensurepip,
> and
> a pip maintainer. I know that pip (and other language level package managers)
> have a sort of love/hate (sometimes more of one or the other!) relationship
> with the downstream Linux packagers. I know that PEP453 also puts more focus
> on this in general since it's now a recommendation for pip to be installed
> if Python is.
> 
> So I'd like to say that If there are problems I'd like to help fix them.
> Especially if there are problems with pip that make you nervous/upset/sad
> with

I would say this one https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1351 is important for us 
as packagers. It makes me nervous/upset and sad altogether :-).

> having it tied so closely to Python. Also generally about making less
> headache
> for distros where pip is involved (pip and the OS package manager stomping on
> each other etc).
> 
> To start off this goal I've filed https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1668 to
> figure out how pip can get our defaults to the point where most users will be
> installing to ~/.local/ instead of the system location. If there's more
> things
> pip can do I'd love to know about them, or if ensurepip or the PEP453
> processes
> have something I can help with too :)

Nice, I have put my two cents in it.

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Thank you for bringing up this long-awaited and postponed issue for discussion!

Regards,

Robert Kuska 
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