2010-12-06 - Fedora QA meeting recap

[James Laska]

As always, minutes and IRC log available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20101206

= Attendees =

People present (lines said)
      * jlaska (153)
      * adamw (58)
      * kparal (26)
      * pjones (23)
      * nirik (13)
      * mdomsch2 (9)
      * mkrizek (6)
      * fenrus02 (3)
      * Viking-Ice (3)
      * jsmith (3)
      * dgilmore (3)
      * abadger1999 (1)

Unable to attend:
      * Rhe (hopefully sleeping)

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-December/095899.html
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-12-06/fedora-qa.2010-12-06-16.00.html 

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
     1. jlaska to prep F15 test day wiki and request ideas on test@
        (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_15_test_days)
     2. Nirik to start discussion on test list related to updates ideas
        (see
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-November/095756.html)

== Many ways to get involved in QA ... == 

=== Call for Test Days ===

Owner : jlaska
Summary
      * Call for ideas/owners for Fedora 15 test days
        (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days)
      * Monitor list of approved features for ideas
        (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/FeatureList)
      * AdamW initiated GNOME3 discussion on desktop@ list
        (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-November/006702.html)
Next steps ...
     1. Contribute ideas to
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:QA/Fedora_15_test_days
     2. Identify owners to organize and host test days

=== Python script communicating with bugzilla ===

Owner : Bruno
      * Tune existing python scripts to detect UNTESTED blocker bugs
Next steps ...
     1. See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/89#comment:11

=== Requirements review for Fedora test case management ===

Owner : rhe
      * Requirements review for Fedora test case management
Next steps ...
     1. See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/152

=== Critical Path test case development ===

Owner : adamw
      * Critical Path test case development
Next steps ...
     1. See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/154

== AutoQA Update ==

Owner : kparal
Summary
     1. All autoqa config files are now copied from the server to the
        client when executing tests
     2. Watchers and autoqa script now return non-zero return code when
        test scheduling fails. No more unnoticed failures
     3. jskladan is in the process of rewriting current bodhi watcher
        into watching koji -pending tags
     4. Anaconda and depcheck tests were removed from master branch.
        There are not complete yet, we will re-add them once they are
        finished
     5. clumens has written a new anaconda_storage test, it's present in
        the clumens branch
     6. mkrizek worked heavily on posting Bodhi comments. It's almost
        finished, expecting additional changes this week
Next steps ...
     1. Wwoods posting blog article explaining the need for {{Ticket|
        autoqa|248}}
     2. Jskladan rewriting bodhi watcher to work with depcheck
        (encountering depcheck issues)

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

== mdomsch - FTBFS ==

Summary
      * My FTBFS report includes ~80 bugs that now BFS (see
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-December/146682.html and http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-December/146683.html)
      * begin creating the list of FTBFS bugs that will cause packages
        to be blocked from F15 at Alpha
      * starting with those ~110 that are still open from F14, and
        warning people
Next steps ...
     1. Team didn't feel FTBFS issues were an appropriate fit for QA
        group
     2. Bring FTBFS discussion to rel-eng or FESCO

== pjones - grub 4kb bugs ==

Summary
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FourkBSectorBooting
      * rawhide/f15 now have support for booting from drives with 4kB
        sectors (as opposed to 512B like normal disks have) for UEFI
        only
Next steps ...
     1. Folks installing rawhide starting from last Friday (12-03), be
        on the lookout for boot related failures

== AdamW - Critpath test plans ==

Summary
      * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/154
      * Adam is working on the wiki structure/layout to begin creating
        critpath test cases and plans
Next steps ...
     1. Experiment with wiki document structure
     2. Identify how testers (and tools/bodhi) will locate tests/plans
     3. Begin drafting specific critpath tests
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