My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

[cornel panceac]

2011/5/30 Pasha R <pashar.ml at gmail.com>

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 22:09 +0300, Pasha R wrote:
> >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 09:47 +0600, Angel wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If you click the network icon of the panel then Network Settings,
> that
> >> >> ´s the different thing (dumbed down to absolute worthlessness).
> >> >
> >> > yeah - it's so worthless you can only connect to a typical wired or
> >> > wireless network configuration, y'know, like probably 80-90% of all
> >> > network connections ever. I do wish people would be less absurdly
> >> > extremist about everything. 'It doesn't yet cover my particular use
> >> > case' is not the same thing as 'worthless'.
> >>
> >> Well, unfortunately, my internet provider (and all other internet
> >> providers in my country) require me to use PPPoE to connect to
> >> internet. And, for some unknown reason (probably something like "I
> >> don't need it, so no one else does, too" logic) current "network
> >> setting" application does not allow me to configure such connection.
> >> So, yes, I can't configure my internet connection with it, which
> >> means, it is worthless.
> >
> > For your case, yes. 'Absolute worthlessness' implies it is of no use to
> > anyone, which is not the case.
> >
> > The reason some functions are not yet implemented in the GNOME 3 NM
> > interface is simply that the developers did not have time to finish them
> > off yet. No conspiracy theory needed.
>
> Yes, it is useless for anything beyond most basic configuration, which
> works without any configuration tools most of the time. And for some
> (many) users it is unable to setup internet connection at all. I don't
> remember posting any conspiracy theories here, but I don't understand
> why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional software by
> software that lacks many essential features or even replace existing
> software by "yet to be written" (like gdmsetup, which remains to be
> written since F9). May be instead of rushing to release Gnome 3 before
> it can provide not only nice-looking, but also functional DE, they
> could stop, catch their breath and complete all these missing
> features.
> --
>

it's strange how, gnome 2 which was incomplete and buggy (we were unable to
stop a copy operation in nautilus, remember? ), suddenly appears great, by
comparison :)
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