F18 TC3 No Logout Option?: Wonko the Sane

[John Morris]

On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > 
> > When I click on the User Name in the right corner the options are....
> >  Notifications, System Settings, Lock, and Power Off.  Am I missing
> > something?
> 
> This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They believe there are no use cases for logging out, if you have just a single user.

Just read the thread up to current.... Am I the only one who thinks this
conversation is insane?

So now there will be logic to carefully look at whether there is more
than one user account, then look to see if more than one session
installed.  Then the startx case may or may not (I'd bet not) be dealt
with.  And sometimes when you run updates you get a message about
needing to log off and back on and sometimes you are told to reboot so I
suppose that needs to also be accounted for.. or just always force
reboots since apparently Windows is now our lodestar.

All these bugs to deal with just to remove a menu option that wasn't
hurting anyone.  So I take it all other problems are now solved and we
are free to waste time twisting knobs just for the heck of it now?

People expect to be log in and then log out of machines, online
services, pretty much everywhere.  Where is the study showing this is
confusing the always mythical hordes of AOLers who are supposed to be
clammoring to welcome to the Penguin's icy embrace if we could only dumb
it down just one notch below a Mac?  Where?  Anyone?  Beuller?

Maybe, just maybe, I want to log out when I'm not using the machine
because I have good security habits.  A modern machine has good enough
power management that powering down completely is usually overkill, or
have you guys just woke up from a coma and think it is still the 1990's?
Any of you geniuses thought about that use case?  Haven't security
people been hammering that one into people's thick skulls since long
before Linus was acrolling aaaaas and bbbbs across a screen and getting
grandiose notions of world domination?  Yes they have.  And this change
hoses all that effort.

There is exactly one use case where eliminating the logout option almost
makes sense, the case where a machine is set to automatically login an
account on boot.  But that still doesn't cover every possibility without
a lot of extra effort.

Now you kids get the heck off my lawn and go reread "baggy pantsing" in
the Jargon File.

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 198 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/attachments/20121010/433173a5/attachment.sig>