Fedora = "the darker side of the Internet?"

[Bill Davidsen]

Jeff Gustafson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 17:53 -0400, Bill Oliver wrote:
>> Sigh.  Yes, I know you have to go through 17 to get to 18, Mr. Harald.
>> And, no, it's not just a matter of "following instructions."  In fact,
>> almost nothing that requires significant technical skill is just a
>> matter of "following instructions."  Arrogant savants forget the fact
>> that they paid a lot of dues learning the little tricks that *aren't*
>> in the instructions.  Your tell, for instance, is that you brag about
>> upgrading 20 machines from F9 to F18.  You may not be willing to admit
>> it, but I suspect *somewhere* in there, there were a few gliches.
>> But, because you have done it a bunch of times, you know how to deal
>> with them.  That's very different that doing it for the first time.
>
> This page helps quite a bit:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
>
> Note that is the live update via yum which can be a bit more trickier. I
> can't recall serious issues with upgrades using the normal upgrade
> procedure. I'm sure there have been some, but none that were serious
> enough to note.
>
What do you consider "normal upgrade?" preupdate? fedup? vudo (sp?) or someone's 
scripts? It used to be easy, now in general it hangs some percent of the time, 
or takes many times the time to reinstall. If an upgrade won't complete in four 
hours on a 4 core, 32GB RAM, SSD system, it's hung, and advice to let it run is 
silly, the fedup procedure is worthless on many machines.Posts saying things 
like "worked for me, be patient, finished in about 30 hours" confirm that.

> ...Jeff
>


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