dotnet integration status and development

[Michael Cronenworth]

Hi,

I have an interest in Jellyfin[1], a fork of Emby[2], and the Jellyfin team has 
migrated the build system from Mono to dotnet. Currently it builds and runs with the 
dotnet 3.0 packages from the dotnet SIG.

What's the status of integration into Fedora proper? Still waiting on binary 
building from source issues?

What's the status of dotnet 3.1 packages?

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Development question: How do you build dotnet packages offline?

When I build Jellyfin inside of mock (with no Internet route) the build fails to 
find the NuGet repo and if I disable the NuGet feature the dotnet CLI cannot resolve 
any dependencies.

I find it unfortunate that dotnet has grown the Internet as a dependency similar to 
nodejs, Go, and other "online" languages.

Thanks,
Michael

[1] https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin
[2] https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Emby

[Radka Janekova]

Hi,

the latest status is the same as in December because holiday - long story
short, there is work happening on Microsoft side as well as on our side to
get 3.1 into Fedora repositories, and it might even happen within the next
few months. No promises though, there are all kinds of issues left to
resolve.
> building without connection

Never tried that so I've got no idea. I would say that it's not possible,
but in theory you could build it locally and then reference the populated
nuget cache or something like that. Then mock comes into play right...

Regards,
Radka

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*Radka Janeková (she/her)*
.NET Core QE Lead, Red Hat
*[e-mail] *
IRC: radka | Freenode: Rhea

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:37 PM Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an interest in Jellyfin[1], a fork of Emby[2], and the Jellyfin
> team has
> migrated the build system from Mono to dotnet. Currently it builds and
> runs with the
> dotnet 3.0 packages from the dotnet SIG.
>
> What's the status of integration into Fedora proper? Still waiting on
> binary
> building from source issues?
>
> What's the status of dotnet 3.1 packages?
>
> Development question: How do you build dotnet packages offline?
>
> When I build Jellyfin inside of mock (with no Internet route) the build
> fails to
> find the NuGet repo and if I disable the NuGet feature the dotnet CLI
> cannot resolve
> any dependencies.
>
> I find it unfortunate that dotnet has grown the Internet as a dependency
> similar to
> nodejs, Go, and other "online" languages.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> [1] https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin
> [2] https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Emby
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[Tom Deseyn]

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:16 AM Radka Janekova  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the latest status is the same as in December because holiday - long story short, there is work happening on Microsoft side as well as on our side to get 3.1 into Fedora repositories, and it might even happen within the next few months. No promises though, there are all kinds of issues left to resolve.
> > building without connection
>
> Never tried that so I've got no idea. I would say that it's not possible, but in theory you could build it locally and then reference the populated nuget cache or something like that. Then mock comes into play right...

.NET Core 3 SDK includes targeting packs. When you are building for
one of those packs and have no other dependencies, your build *should*
work offline.
A targeting pack is included for netcoreapp3.0 and netstandard2.1.

For other tfms and nuget packages, you need to create a nuget cache to
build offline.
Because these are pre-built binaries, unfortunately, you can't create
a fully built-from-source app to be put in Fedora repos.
> Regards,
> Radka
>
> Radka Janeková (she/her)
> .NET Core QE Lead, Red Hat
> [e-mail]
> IRC: radka | Freenode: Rhea
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:37 PM Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an interest in Jellyfin[1], a fork of Emby[2], and the Jellyfin team has
> > migrated the build system from Mono to dotnet. Currently it builds and runs with the
> > dotnet 3.0 packages from the dotnet SIG.
> >
> > What's the status of integration into Fedora proper? Still waiting on binary
> > building from source issues?
> >
> > What's the status of dotnet 3.1 packages?
> >
> > Development question: How do you build dotnet packages offline?
> >
> > When I build Jellyfin inside of mock (with no Internet route) the build fails to
> > find the NuGet repo and if I disable the NuGet feature the dotnet CLI cannot resolve
> > any dependencies.
> >
> > I find it unfortunate that dotnet has grown the Internet as a dependency similar to
> > nodejs, Go, and other "online" languages.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin
> > [2] https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Emby
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> > DotNet SIG mailing list -- [e-mail]
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[Michael Cronenworth]

On 1/7/20 2:23 AM, Tom Deseyn wrote:
> .NET Core 3 SDK includes targeting packs. When you are building for
> one of those packs and have no other dependencies, your build*should*
> work offline.
> A targeting pack is included for netcoreapp3.0 and netstandard2.1.
>
> For other tfms and nuget packages, you need to create a nuget cache to
> build offline.
> Because these are pre-built binaries, unfortunately, you can't create
> a fully built-from-source app to be put in Fedora repos.

I have all the targeting packs installed.

The build fails when inside of mock without Internet with this message:

/usr/lib64/dotnet/sdk/3.0.100/NuGet.targets(123,5): error : Unable to load the 
service index for source https://api.nuget.org/v3/index.json. 
[/builddir/build/BUILD/jellyfin-10.5.0/Jellyfin.Server/Jellyfin.Server.csproj]

When I disable all NuGet sources with a custom config the build fails trying to find 
dependencies.

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 1/6/20 8:16 PM, Radka Janekova wrote:
> the latest status is the same as in December because holiday - long story short, 
> there is work happening on Microsoft side as well as on our side to get 3.1 into 
> Fedora repositories, and it might even happen within the next few months. No 
> promises though, there are all kinds of issues left to resolve.

Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eyes peeled for future updates.
> > building without connection
>
> Never tried that so I've got no idea. I would say that it's not possible, but in 
> theory you could build it locally and then reference the populated nuget cache or 
> something like that. Then mock comes into play right...

That's what I had to do for the nodejs dependencies that Jellyfin requires. It's a 
giant tarball bundle of javascript libraries. Ugly.