Surveying active Fedora Mono packagers

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

Hi all,

It would be nice to know how many active Fedora packagers are on this
list. There have been communication issues in the past (see fedora-devel
list), with some important bulk updates being obsoleted because
individual maintainers push newer updates before the old ones have a
chance of hitting stable.

If you could respond with:
- packages currently maintained
- packages currently comaintained
- packages you would like to see added
- other responsibilities you might be willing to take on

The mailing list is currently administered by David -- David, are you
considering coming back to packaging work? Otherwise, we might need
someone who can coordinate the current packagers to administer the list.
Responsibilities would include, for instance, trying to make sure that
any new Mono packager get inducted into this list.

My entry:
Michel Salim / salimma(a)fedoraproject.org / hircus
Packages maintained:
gnome-keyring-sharp

Packages comaintained:
banshee
gnome-do, gnome-do-plugins

Might volunteer for:
coordinating work

Thanks,

-- 
Michel

[Juan Rodriguez]

My entry:
Juan Rodriguez / nushio(a)fedoraproject.org <salimma(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; /
Nushio
Packages maintained:
libbeagle

Packages comaintained:
gnome-do
gnome-do-plugins
beagle

I also maintain blueman, but that's not a mono package.

Thanks,
-- 
Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico

[C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP]

I'm on the list mostly to keep up with the rpm side of things, so I
don't maintain anything.  I asked Brett to package/maintain IronRuby,
IronPython and the DLR.

It might be a good idea to ask in the upstream list as well:

http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-packagers-list

Cheers,

C.J.

On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:04 -0500, Juan Rodriguez wrote:
>  My entry:
>  Juan Rodriguez / nushio(a)fedoraproject.org / Nushio
>  Packages maintained:
>  libbeagle
>  
>  Packages comaintained:
>  gnome-do
>  gnome-do-plugins
>  beagle
>  
>  I also maintain blueman, but that's not a mono package. 
>  
>  Thanks, 
>  -- 
>  Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
>  Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
>  Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
>  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
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>  fedora-mono(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mono

[Christian Krause]

Hi,

Michel Salim wrote:
>  It would be nice to know how many active Fedora packagers are on
> this
>  list. There have been communication issues in the past (see fedora-devel
>  list), with some important bulk updates being obsoleted because
>  individual maintainers push newer updates before the old ones have a
>  chance of hitting stable. 
I certainly agree that that it would be a good idea to coordinate the
bulk updates for the various mono packages. At least the following
actions should be announced and coordinated on this list:

1. request of dist-overrides:
Since all new builds will be built against the packages which are tagged
this way (but probably not pushed to updates yet) and so they may not
work with the current stable versions, this should be coordinated with
all mono packagers. Especially the expected period of having the
packages tagged this way should be communicated.

2. updates of mono's core packages:
IMHO it would be helpful to have a section in the mono SIG's wiki to
define which major version of the core packages is planned in which
Fedora releases. Something like:

F10: mono 2.2
F11: mono 2.4
F12: mono 2.4
...

Would this be an option to avoid some misunderstandings?


My entry:
Christian Krause / chkr(a)fedoraproject.org / chkr
Packages maintained:
f-spot

Packages comaintained:
mono-tools
monodevelop

Additionally I maintain a couple of non-mono packages.

I'd like to volunteer to comaintain some more mono packages. For sure
I'd also like to help with coordinating the mass updates...


Best regards,
Christian

[Peter Gordon]

Good idea, Michael.  

I currently am the primary maintainer of ndesk-dbus and ndesk-dbus-glib,
and I comaintain no other mono packages. For the moment, I'm quite
content with the availability of Mono/.Net packages in Fedora, but admit
that I'm not a C#/.Net expert by any means. :)

Unfortunately, I'd also not be available to take on further
responsibilities at this point: due to time constraints of work, school,
and my other Fedora packages. 

Thanks.
-- 
Peter Gordon (codergeek42) <peter(a)thecodergeek.com&gt;
Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me

[Paul Lange]

Hey,

Paul Lange / palango(a)gmx.de / palango

Packages maintained:
* banshee-mirage
* flickrnet
* mono-nat
* monsoon
* webkit-sharp

comaintained:
* monodevelop-debugger-mdb


I'd like to see:
* gnome-do-docklets
* PdfMod
* clutter-sharp
* gegl-sharp

* gnome-do 0.8.2
* boo 0.9.1 (package is ready, only needs import)


regards,
Paul

[David Nielsen]

2009/8/23 Paul Lange <palango(a)gmx.de&gt;

>  Hey,
>
>  Paul Lange / palango(a)gmx.de / palango
>
>  Packages maintained:
>  * banshee-mirage
>  * flickrnet
>  * mono-nat
>  * monsoon
>  * webkit-sharp
>
>  comaintained:
>  * monodevelop-debugger-mdb
>
>
>  I'd like to see:
>  * gnome-do-docklets
>  * PdfMod
>  * clutter-sharp
>  * gegl-sharp
>  
pdfmod would be absolutely awesome to have in the repos. clutter-sharp will
be needed for the upcoming banshee releases I suspect so it might also be
good to have in the repos early.

I will happily do reviews


>  * gnome-do 0.8.2
>  * boo 0.9.1 (package is ready, only needs import) 

How does boo 0.9.1 jive with the rest of the system.. incompatible?. Also
when it gets imported please use the announcement lists to let people know
you are bumping a language.

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:45 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:


>          * boo 0.9.1 (package is ready, only needs import)
>  
>  
>  How does boo 0.9.1 jive with the rest of the system.. incompatible?.
>  Also when it gets imported please use the announcement lists to let
>  people know you are bumping a language.  
Make sure to do

  repoquery --alldeps --whatrequires boo

and give a heads-up to the relevant package maintainers
(PGKNAME-owner(a)fedoraproject.org should work)

so far it's only Banshee that's affected. I used to maintain it, and
still comaintain -- unfortunately I'm on Rawhide and there's this
bizarre bug I cannot track down yet, in that both Banshee 1.4.3 and
1.5.0 (1.6.0-beta1) would cause a segfault.

For stable releases, since it requires rebuilding Banshee, I'd say do
the Koji build but don't push an update yet. Let the Banshee maintainers
know, and if it's stable, one of us can ask for boo-0.9.1 to be tagged
dist-override so we can build Banshee against it and push a combined
update.

Regards,

-- 
Michel

[Paul Lange]

Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 13:30 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
>  On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:45 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
>  
>  
>  >         * boo 0.9.1 (package is ready, only needs import)
>  > 
>  > 
>  > How does boo 0.9.1 jive with the rest of the system.. incompatible?.
>  > Also when it gets imported please use the announcement lists to let
>  > people know you are bumping a language. 
>  
>  Make sure to do
>  
>    repoquery --alldeps --whatrequires boo
>  
>  and give a heads-up to the relevant package maintainers
>  (PGKNAME-owner(a)fedoraproject.org should work)
>  
>  so far it's only Banshee that's affected. I used to maintain it, and
>  still comaintain -- unfortunately I'm on Rawhide and there's this
>  bizarre bug I cannot track down yet, in that both Banshee 1.4.3 and
>  1.5.0 (1.6.0-beta1) would cause a segfault.
>  
>  For stable releases, since it requires rebuilding Banshee, I'd say do
>  the Koji build but don't push an update yet. Let the Banshee maintainers
>  know, and if it's stable, one of us can ask for boo-0.9.1 to be tagged
>  dist-override so we can build Banshee against it and push a combined
>  update. 
I updated the package some time ago, mainly for banshee 1.6, and asked
Paul F. Johnson for an import or commit rights but he didn't answer yet.
Seems like I have the same problem like Christian with mono-addins.

btw, is there an advanced packager in the list who could push the
update? source rpm is here: http://palango.fedorapeople.org/boo/

regards,
Paul

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 20:59 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  I updated the package some time ago, mainly for banshee 1.6, and
> asked
>  Paul F. Johnson for an import or commit rights but he didn't answer yet.
>  Seems like I have the same problem like Christian with mono-addins.
>  
>  btw, is there an advanced packager in the list who could push the
>  update? source rpm is here: http://palango.fedorapeople.org/boo/
>   
Ah, I thought you were already in the ACL, but I see it's still pending
review. Paul can be hard to reach sometimes, but I do know he checks the
Mono packager list -- mono-packagers-list(a)lists.ximian.com . Which email
address did you use to contact him? Try paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk --
not sure if his fedoraproject.org mail redirects properly or not.

I am a "proven packager" so I can do the update for you. I'll take a
look at it later tonight, and push a boo + banshee rebuild for Rawhide.

Incidentally, anyone here running Rawhide? Need help debugging Banshee.

Regards,

-- 
Michel

[Paul Lange]

Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 16:54 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
>  On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 20:59 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  > I updated the package some time ago, mainly for banshee 1.6, and asked
>  > Paul F. Johnson for an import or commit rights but he didn't answer yet.
>  > Seems like I have the same problem like Christian with mono-addins.
>  > 
>  > btw, is there an advanced packager in the list who could push the
>  > update? source rpm is here: http://palango.fedorapeople.org/boo/
>  > 
>  Ah, I thought you were already in the ACL, but I see it's still pending
>  review. Paul can be hard to reach sometimes, but I do know he checks the
>  Mono packager list -- mono-packagers-list(a)lists.ximian.com . Which email
>  address did you use to contact him? Try paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk --
>  not sure if his fedoraproject.org mail redirects properly or not. 
I tried this address. However, Toshio gave me permissions for boo, so
tell me when I can help you.

regards,
Paul

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 23:49 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 16:54 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
>  > On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 20:59 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  > > I updated the package some time ago, mainly for banshee 1.6, and asked
>  > > Paul F. Johnson for an import or commit rights but he didn't answer yet.
>  > > Seems like I have the same problem like Christian with mono-addins.
>  > > 
>  > > btw, is there an advanced packager in the list who could push the
>  > > update? source rpm is here: http://palango.fedorapeople.org/boo/
>  > > 
>  > Ah, I thought you were already in the ACL, but I see it's still pending
>  > review. Paul can be hard to reach sometimes, but I do know he checks the
>  > Mono packager list -- mono-packagers-list(a)lists.ximian.com . Which email
>  > address did you use to contact him? Try paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk --
>  > not sure if his fedoraproject.org mail redirects properly or not.
>  
>  I tried this address. However, Toshio gave me permissions for boo, so
>  tell me when I can help you.
>   
Yup, I see that. I think the easiest way is for you to commit boo, and
let me know by email (no need to email the list). I'll then do a
chain-build of boo and banshee, that way, we make sure both of them end
up in the same Rawhide compose.

Regards,

-- 
Michel

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On 08/23/2009 11:59 AM, Paul Lange wrote:
>  I updated the package some time ago, mainly for banshee 1.6, and
> asked
>  Paul F. Johnson for an import or commit rights but he didn't answer yet.
>  Seems like I have the same problem like Christian with mono-addins.
>  
>  btw, is there an advanced packager in the list who could push the
>  update? source rpm is here: http://palango.fedorapeople.org/boo/
>   
Care to CC yourself onto the unreachable maintainer bug?  I'll make you
a comaintainer to boo right now.

-Toshio

[Christian Krause]

Hi,

David Nielsen wrote:
>      I'd like to see: 
[...]
>      * clutter-sharp 
>  
>  pdfmod would be absolutely awesome to have in the repos. clutter-sharp
>  will be needed for the upcoming banshee releases I suspect so it might
>  also be good to have in the repos early. 
I've just filed a review-request for clutter-sharp. ;-)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519538


Best regards,
Christian

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

Hullo!

On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:18 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:

>  I'd like to see:
>  * gnome-do-docklets 
Juan <nushio> is working on it; it's almost ready for
review

>  * gnome-do 0.8.2 
In Rawhide; we cannot push it to F-11 yet
until Toshio's big Mono update
lands in stable, but you can grab the F-11 build from Koji.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-do

Regards,

-- 
Michel

[Paul Lange]

Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 13:00 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
>  Hullo!
>  
>  On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:18 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  
>  > I'd like to see:
>  > * gnome-do-docklets
>  Juan <nushio> is working on it; it's almost ready for review 
Good news :)

>  > * gnome-do 0.8.2
>  In Rawhide; we cannot push it to F-11 yet until Toshio's big Mono update
>  lands in stable, but you can grab the F-11 build from Koji.
>  
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-do 
Also good news, is somebody working on updating gnome-do-plugins?
What is the mono update you're talking about?

regards,
Paul

[Juan Rodriguez]

2009/8/23 Paul Lange <palango(a)gmx.de&gt;

>  Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 13:00 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
>  > Hullo!
>  >
>  > On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:18 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
>  >
>  > > I'd like to see:
>  > > * gnome-do-docklets
>  > Juan <nushio> is working on it; it's almost ready for review
>
>  Good news :)
>
>  > > * gnome-do 0.8.2
>  > In Rawhide; we cannot push it to F-11 yet until Toshio's big Mono update
>  > lands in stable, but you can grab the F-11 build from Koji.
>  >
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-do
>
>  Also good news, is somebody working on updating gnome-do-plugins?
>  What is the mono update you're talking about?
>
>  regards,
>  Paul
>
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>  
Paul,
Michel and I are working on updating the plugins.
The PPC64 rebuild is what's stopping us from actually pushing both on F11,
but as soon as that's done, we'll have those 2, and gnome-do-docklets near,
along with gdata-sharp, which is needed by some (but not all) google plugins
for gnome-do.

I'll get to work on gnome-do-docklets and will email the list with the
review link.

Thanks.
-- 
Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico

[David Nielsen]

2009/8/23 Juan Rodriguez <nushio(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;

>  2009/8/23 Paul Lange <palango(a)gmx.de&gt;
>
> > Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 13:00 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
> > > Hullo!
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:18 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd like to see:
> > > > * gnome-do-docklets
> > > Juan <nushio> is working on it; it's almost ready for review
> >
> > Good news :)
> >
> > > > * gnome-do 0.8.2
> > > In Rawhide; we cannot push it to F-11 yet until Toshio's big Mono update
> > > lands in stable, but you can grab the F-11 build from Koji.
> > >
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-do
> >
> > Also good news, is somebody working on updating gnome-do-plugins?
> > What is the mono update you're talking about?
> >
> > regards,
> > Paul
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > fedora-mono(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mono
> >
> >
>  Paul,
>  Michel and I are working on updating the plugins.
>  The PPC64 rebuild is what's stopping us from actually pushing both on F11,
>  but as soon as that's done, we'll have those 2, and gnome-do-docklets near,
>  along with gdata-sharp, which is needed by some (but not all) google plugins
>  for gnome-do.
>
>  I'll get to work on gnome-do-docklets and will email the list with the
>  review link. 

It sounds like you are all working hard to make Fedora and Mono shine, thank
you all for picking up the mantle.

- David

[Juan Rodriguez]

2009/8/23 David Nielsen <gnomeuser(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  2009/8/23 Juan Rodriguez <nushio(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>
>
> >
> > 2009/8/23 Paul Lange <palango(a)gmx.de&gt;
> >
> >>  Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2009, 13:00 -0400 schrieb Michel Salim:
> >> > Hullo!
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 14:18 +0200, Paul Lange wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'd like to see:
> >> > > * gnome-do-docklets
> >> > Juan <nushio> is working on it; it's almost ready for review
> >>
> >> Good news :)
> >>
> >> > > * gnome-do 0.8.2
> >> > In Rawhide; we cannot push it to F-11 yet until Toshio's big Mono
> >> update
> >> > lands in stable, but you can grab the F-11 build from Koji.
> >> >
> >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/gnome-do
> >>
> >> Also good news, is somebody working on updating gnome-do-plugins?
> >> What is the mono update you're talking about?
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> fedora-mono mailing list
> >> fedora-mono(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mono
> >>
> >>
> > Paul,
> > Michel and I are working on updating the plugins.
> > The PPC64 rebuild is what's stopping us from actually pushing both on F11,
> > but as soon as that's done, we'll have those 2, and gnome-do-docklets near,
> > along with gdata-sharp, which is needed by some (but not all) google plugins
> > for gnome-do.
> >
> > I'll get to work on gnome-do-docklets and will email the list with the
> > review link.
>
>
>  It sounds like you are all working hard to make Fedora and Mono shine,
>  thank you all for picking up the mantle.
>
>  - David
>
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>
>  
Thanks David,

You can blame 'Lifehacker'[1] (And gnome-do) for my interest in Mono, as
they usually mention neat things to do on 'do, and its usually with the
latest version which is never on Fedora the day their articles seem to hit.

I'd like to change that ;)


[1] http://lifehacker.com

-- 
Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico

[Ismael Olea]

2009/8/20 Michel Salim <michael.silvanus(a)gmail.com
>  
My
entry:


>  - packages currently maintained
>  
- packages currently comaintained


several non mono related

I still have pending to finish the revision of moonlight 1.1 to be approved
at RPMFusion

- packages you would like to see added


chronojump: I've done the first release[1] and I'll propose it to Fedora as
soon I fix some guideline requirements.

[1] http://olea.org/paquetes-rpm/repoview/chronojump.html

- other responsibilities you might be willing to take on
>  
I have interest on the new Mono guidelines, but not sure of finding the
needed time to help.

-- 

Ismael Olea

http://olea.org/diario/