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--- Comment #13 from Ville Skyttä ville.skytta@iki.fi 2009-09-08 02:47:52 EDT --- (In reply to comment #12)
You claimed I'd done "actual harm" to Fedora
No I didn't, please read comment 4 again (I guess that's what you're referring to). But let's not get caught up with this or other word games.
How about, instead of bashing, we sit down and try to work out how to best do this
I have plenty on my plate so no thanks for now. But on a brief look, FullyTestablePerl looks like a good idea that would pretty much eliminate my concerns. And Stepan's suggestion at end of comment 9 (+ some real thought from the packagers whether to ship the tests) would be an improvement in the meantime.
I'd like to see the evidence of any concrete harm done specific to including the test suites in %_docdir, but I haven't seen any yet
The reasons given in comment 8 demonstrate why I think this stuff is harmful. IMO it makes affected packages worse than they would be without those issues, which I think qualifies this practice as harmful. You don't agree with it, but the "evidence" is there, and one (very insignificant) manifestation of it is this very bug. Dismissing it as handwaving, FUD or nonexistent is a bit extreme.
I think it's about time we let this bug rest in peace and continue the discussion in another more appropriate medium in case someone still has something to say.