Clean install from Live Sway ISO: Win-d does not work any more

[Philip Rhoades]

People,

I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live install 
but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live Sway ISO, 
generally everything went pretty well - except now the Win-d hot key 
does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.  I presume there 
is a way to turn this on but it should be on by default?

Thanks,

Phil.

-- 
Philip Rhoades

PO Box 896
Cowra  NSW  2794
Australia
E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au

[Jiří Konečný]

Hi,
I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you please check journal for
error messages?

Best Regards,
Jirka 

20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal:
> People,
>
> I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live install but when I did a
> clean install recently from the new Live Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well -
> except now the Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.  I
> presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by default?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil.
>
> -- 
> Philip Rhoades
>
> PO Box 896
> Cowra  NSW  2794
> Australia
> E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au
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[Philip Rhoades]

Jiří,


On 2023-05-23 02:02, Jiří Konečný wrote:
>  Hi,
>  I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you
>  please check journal for error messages? 

Thanks for responding!  I did:

   journalctl > t[1 or 2]

before and after doing:

   Win-d

but there was no diff between t1 and t2.

- is that what you meant me to check?

Thanks,

Phil.


>  20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades
> <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
>  napsal:
>  
> > People,
> > 
> > I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live
> > install but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live
> > Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well - except now the
> > Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.
> > I presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by
> > default?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Phil. 
-- 
Philip Rhoades

PO Box 896
Cowra  NSW  2794
Australia
E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au

Hi,

yes, that means no error was raised.

I wonder, after reading your question again I see that you complain that it doesn't
work at the top of the screen. What that means exactly. Does that mean that other than
when you have cursor at the top it works fine and what exactly is the "top"?

Best Regards,
Jirka

> 24.05.2023 20:13 CEST Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal(a):
> 
>  
> Jiří,
> 
> 
> On 2023-05-23 02:02, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you
> > please check journal for error messages?
> 
> 
> Thanks for responding!  I did:
> 
>    journalctl > t[1 or 2]
> 
> before and after doing:
> 
>    Win-d
> 
> but there was no diff between t1 and t2.
> 
> - is that what you meant me to check?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil.
> 
> 
> > 20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
> > napsal:
> > 
> >> People,
> >> 
> >> I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live
> >> install but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live
> >> Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well - except now the
> >> Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.
> >> I presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by
> >> default?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Phil.
> 
> -- 
> Philip Rhoades
> 
> PO Box 896
> Cowra  NSW  2794
> Australia
> E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au
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[Philip Rhoades]

Jirka,


On 2023-05-25 06:11, jiri.konec(a)pacse.eu wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  yes, that means no error was raised. 

OK - thanks - so I understood correctly . .


>  I wonder, after reading your question again I see that you complain
>  that it doesn't work at the top of the screen. What that means
>  exactly. Does that mean that other than when you have cursor at the
>  top it works fine and what exactly is the "top"? 

Before the fresh install, after I used "Win-d", a command-line would 
appear at the top of the screen on a line under the WayBar virtual 
desktops - with a string of commands following - and, as I typed eg 
"kcalc", the number of command strings would decrease until only
"kcalc" 
remained in the list ie, if the command became unique enough, say with 
"kca", you could then just hit ENTER to execute the command.

Does that make sense?

Thanks!

Phil.


>  Best Regards,
>  Jirka
>  
> > 24.05.2023 20:13 CEST Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal(a):
> > 
> > 
> > Jiří,
> > 
> > 
> > On 2023-05-23 02:02, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you
> > > please check journal for error messages?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for responding!  I did:
> > 
> >    journalctl > t[1 or 2]
> > 
> > before and after doing:
> > 
> >    Win-d
> > 
> > but there was no diff between t1 and t2.
> > 
> > - is that what you meant me to check?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Phil.
> > 
> > 
> > > 20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
> > > napsal:
> > >
> > >> People,
> > >>
> > >> I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live
> > >> install but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live
> > >> Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well - except now the
> > >> Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.
> > >> I presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by
> > >> default?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Phil.
> > 
> > --
> > Philip Rhoades
> > 
> > PO Box 896
> > Cowra  NSW  2794
> > Australia
> > E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au
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Philip Rhoades

PO Box 896
Cowra  NSW  2794
Australia
E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au

[Jiří Konečný]

If you didn't tried that already you can try to run the application launcher manually

rofi -terminal 'foot' -show combi -combi-modes drun

You can find more info in /etc/sway/config, however if you already have your configuration
which is stored in ~/.config/sway/config than the /etc/sway/config is not used and you
need to add your binding to your configuration.

Best Regards,
Jirka

24. května 2023 22:26:38 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal:
> Jirka,
>
>
> On 2023-05-25 06:11, jiri.konec(a)pacse.eu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > yes, that means no error was raised.
>
>
> OK - thanks - so I understood correctly . .
>
>
> > I wonder, after reading your question again I see that you complain
> > that it doesn't work at the top of the screen. What that means
> > exactly. Does that mean that other than when you have cursor at the
> > top it works fine and what exactly is the "top"?
>
>
> Before the fresh install, after I used "Win-d", a command-line would appear at
> the top of the screen on a line under the WayBar virtual desktops - with a string of
> commands following - and, as I typed eg "kcalc", the number of command strings
> would decrease until only "kcalc" remained in the list ie, if the command became
> unique enough, say with "kca", you could then just hit ENTER to execute the
> command.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Phil.
>
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Jirka
> > 
> >> 24.05.2023 20:13 CEST Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal(a):
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Jiří,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2023-05-23 02:02, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you
> >> > please check journal for error messages?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for responding!  I did:
> >> 
> >>    journalctl > t[1 or 2]
> >> 
> >> before and after doing:
> >> 
> >>    Win-d
> >> 
> >> but there was no diff between t1 and t2.
> >> 
> >> - is that what you meant me to check?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Phil.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > 20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
> >> > napsal:
> >> >
> >> >> People,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live
> >> >> install but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live
> >> >> Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well - except now the
> >> >> Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.
> >> >> I presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by
> >> >> default?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Phil.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Philip Rhoades
> >> 
> >> PO Box 896
> >> Cowra  NSW  2794
> >> Australia
> >> E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au
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> -- 
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>
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> Australia
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[Philip Rhoades]

Jiří,


On 2023-05-26 16:46, Jiří Konečný wrote:
>  If you didn't tried that already you can try to run the
> application
>  launcher manually
>  
>  rofi -terminal 'foot' -show combi -combi-modes drun 

Yes, that does work but it pops up a new window - what I would prefer is 
what I had before - I think it must be a WayBar feature? - I will look 
into that . .


>  You can find more info in /etc/sway/config, however if you already
>  have your configuration which is stored in ~/.config/sway/config than
>  the /etc/sway/config is not used and you need to add your binding to
>  your configuration. 

If I can't get back what I had before, at least this is a work-around.

Thanks!

Phil.


>  Best Regards,
>  Jirka
>  
>  24. května 2023 22:26:38 SELČ, Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
>  napsal:
>  
> > Jirka,
> > 
> > On 2023-05-25 06:11, jiri.konec(a)pacse.eu wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> yes, that means no error was raised.
> > 
> > OK - thanks - so I understood correctly . .
> > 
> >> I wonder, after reading your question again I see that you
> >> complain
> >> that it doesn't work at the top of the screen. What that means
> >> exactly. Does that mean that other than when you have cursor at
> >> the
> >> top it works fine and what exactly is the "top"?
> > 
> > Before the fresh install, after I used "Win-d", a command-line would
> > appear at the top of the screen on a line under the WayBar virtual
> > desktops - with a string of commands following - and, as I typed eg
> > "kcalc", the number of command strings would decrease until only
> > "kcalc" remained in the list ie, if the command became unique
> > enough, say with "kca", you could then just hit ENTER to execute the
> > command.
> > 
> > Does that make sense?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Phil.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Jirka
> > 
> > 24.05.2023 20:13 CEST Philip Rhoades <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt; napsal(a):
> > 
> > Jiří,
> > 
> > On 2023-05-23 02:02, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I would expect that you have an issue with a launcher. Could you
> > please check journal for error messages?
> > 
> > Thanks for responding! I did:
> > 
> > journalctl > t[1 or 2]
> > 
> > before and after doing:
> > 
> > Win-d
> > 
> > but there was no diff between t1 and t2.
> > 
> > - is that what you meant me to check?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Phil.
> > 
> > 20. května 2023 11:47:23 SELČ, Philip Rhoades
> > <phil(a)pricom.com.au&gt;
> > napsal:
> > 
> > People,
> > 
> > I have been using Sway for a quite a while now via a KDE Live
> > install but when I did a clean install recently from the new Live
> > Sway ISO, generally everything went pretty well - except now the
> > Win-d hot key does not allow me type a command at the top of screen.
> > I presume there is a way to turn this on but it should be on by
> > default?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Phil.
>  
>  --
>  Philip Rhoades
>  
>  PO Box 896
>  Cowra NSW 2794
>  Australia
>  E-mail: phil(a)pricom.com.au
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[bdju]

On Fri May 26, 2023 at 12:27 PM CDT, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>  Jiří,
>
>
>  On 2023-05-26 16:46, Jiří Konečný wrote:
>  > If you didn't tried that already you can try to run the application
>  > launcher manually
>  > 
>  > rofi -terminal 'foot' -show combi -combi-modes drun
>
>
>  Yes, that does work but it pops up a new window - what I would prefer is 
>  what I had before - I think it must be a WayBar feature? - I will look 
>  into that . .
>
>
>  > You can find more info in /etc/sway/config, however if you already
>  > have your configuration which is stored in ~/.config/sway/config than
>  > the /etc/sway/config is not used and you need to add your binding to
>  > your configuration.
>
>
>  If I can't get back what I had before, at least this is a work-around.
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Phil.
>
>  
I have not had a chance to try out the ISO, just following the list out
of curiosity, but based on your earlier description you were probably
using either dmenu or bemenu. It's not a feature of waybar, and it is
spawning a new window of sorts, just in the shape of a bar at the top of
the screen overlapping with your panel. If the key combo to launch it is
not working, the program could be missing or the keybind in the config
could be missing, but on a fresh ISO that should be pre-configured, that
does sound odd. It sounds like you can get a terminal open at least, so
you could check if dmenu or bemenu are installed and take a look at the
Sway config file to see what's wrong.

It's also possible rofi has a mode that looks like dmenu depending on
the arguments you give it, but I don't remember if this is the case.

[Philip Rhoades]

bdju,


On 2023-05-27 04:14, bdju wrote:
>  On Fri May 26, 2023 at 12:27 PM CDT, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> > Jiří,
> > 
> > 
> > On 2023-05-26 16:46, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> > > If you didn't tried that already you can try to run the application
> > > launcher manually
> > >
> > > rofi -terminal 'foot' -show combi -combi-modes drun
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, that does work but it pops up a new window - what I would prefer 
> > is
> > what I had before - I think it must be a WayBar feature? - I will look
> > into that . .
> > 
> > 
> > > You can find more info in /etc/sway/config, however if you already
> > > have your configuration which is stored in ~/.config/sway/config than
> > > the /etc/sway/config is not used and you need to add your binding to
> > > your configuration.
> > 
> > 
> > If I can't get back what I had before, at least this is a work-around.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Phil.
> > 
> > 
>  
>  I have not had a chance to try out the ISO, just following the list out
>  of curiosity, but based on your earlier description you were probably
>  using either dmenu or bemenu. 

YES! - you are correct! - neither was installed and as soon I installed 
dmenu, Win-d started working - I will also investigate bemenu and 
configs etc - thanks!


>  It's not a feature of waybar, and it is
>  spawning a new window of sorts, just in the shape of a bar at the top 
>  of
>  the screen overlapping with your panel. 

Interesting! - I have never come across anything like that in the 
pre-Sway Dark Ages . .


>  If the key combo to launch it is
>  not working, the program could be missing or the keybind in the config
>  could be missing, but on a fresh ISO that should be pre-configured, 
>  that
>  does sound odd. 

Happy to keep testing if there is an issue with the current ISO or if 
people want to create new ones for testing . .


>  It sounds like you can get a terminal open at least, so
>  you could check if dmenu or bemenu are installed and take a look at the
>  Sway config file to see what's wrong. 

Oh after the clean install from the LiveUSB I got back almost straight 
away to my full operation mode with 10 virtual desktops, kitty, ranger 
etc etc - I just couldn't work out the Win-d thing . .


>  It's also possible rofi has a mode that looks like dmenu
> depending on
>  the arguments you give it, but I don't remember if this is the case. 

When I saw rofi pop up during the install to hard disk, I did think that 
maybe that had been an upgrade and while that might be convenient for 
some situations, I really wanted the one line CLI . .

Thanks again! - I learn a bit more . . I love Sway . .

P.
-- 
Philip Rhoades

PO Box 896
Cowra  NSW  2794
Australia
E-mail:  phil(a)pricom.com.au