----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Skrivanek"
<michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com>
To: "Shahar Havivi" <shaharh(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 4:31:44 PM
Subject: Re: [vdsm] vdsm hosts clock sync
On 6 Apr 2015, at 14:05, Shahar Havivi wrote:
> On 06.04.15 08:00, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shahar Havivi" <shaharh(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>>> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 2:54:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [vdsm] vdsm hosts clock sync
>>>
>>> On 06.04.15 07:50, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Shahar Havivi" <shaharh(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 2:44:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: [vdsm] vdsm hosts clock sync
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to add a new feature that reports migration actual downtime
(the
>>>>> time
>>>>> that the VM was inaccessible to the user).
>>>>>
>>>>> Libvirt reports that information but the vdsm hosts need to be in
sync
>>>>> by
>>>>> clock
>>>>> time.
>>>>> I can measure the ping for NTP server an report back to the user if
the
>>>>> ping
>>>>> is too long (more then ~100ms or so) - a way to do that is via
ntpstat
>>>>> shell
>>>>> command.
>>>>> The NTP delay can be report back via vdsStats and can be performed
>>>>> every
>>>>> few hours or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone knows of a better way that we can sync between hosts?
>>>>
>>>> I am unsure how a ping to clock source is helping, can you please
>>>> explain
>>>> more?
>>> In this case I can only report back to the user that its hosts clock is
>>> delayed and need to be set…
I had in mind that hosts are synchronized by NTP and we report the difference
between local time and the reference (NTP) time, i.e. what "ntpstat" returns
This way we don't need to ping around or compare directly all the hosts, but
we can rely on the same source and individual hosts's awareness of accuracy
>>>>
>>>> If you assume clocks are synced why anything more is needed?
>>> Why do I assume that?
the feature requires those 2 hosts to have same clock, not necessarily the
correct one. But I believe having all hosts sync to the actual time is
beneficial on its own
>>>>
>>>> Or would you like to have a solution in which you do not require clock
>>>> sync?
>>>
>>> I do need the clock to be in sync - if not libvirts "actual downtime
>>> migration" will be not accurate.
>>
>> you do not need clock to sync, you need to know the delta between hosts.
the libvirt API uses the delta internally so we can't use only that. Also I
think it is easier to have clock synced by a tool designated for that
>>
>> but if you assume clock are in sync so what is the actual question?
> As I understand from your answer is by having configured ntp the hosts
> clock
> are in sync.
we need to report that they are sync and how off the actual local clock is
once again, you have the solution so why ask the question?
you assume ntpd - please make sure it is actually configured.
Thanks,
michal
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Shahar Havivi.
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