Stable release updates vision

[Gregory Zysk]

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 11 March 2010, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > As noted in our previous minutes[1], the Board was tasked with
> > > producing a vision statement for updates to Fedora stable releases.
> > > That vision can be found here:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision
> > >
> > > This statement is the result of many Board discussions which have
> > > taken into consideration issues raised recently in numerous other
> > > venues such as the devel list.  After considering these issues
> > > carefully, along with other factors such as the broad user base for
> > > which we should strive[2], the Board feels this vision will best meet
> > > the needs of our millions of users, including our contributor base.
> > >
> > > The Board would like FESCo to read through this vision statement, and
> > > use it as a basis for implementing changes that will help achieve this
> > > vision.  We look forward to working with FESCo and across the whole
> > > Fedora Project to continue improving the Fedora distribution.
> >
> > So we're now getting a diktat from the half-unelected Board which appears
> to
> > completely ignore the desires of the majority of our users[1], instead
> > repeating already disproven arguments such as the following?
> >
>
> The bases if your argument for [1]:
> >
> > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1337744
> >
>
> I'm sorry but no one with any experience in statistics would take that
> seriously.  FWIW, I'm dicktat from the half-elected Board.  If you want to
> reference a scientific survey of our users that actually meets the tests
> one should use (perhaps we could pay someone?) that's fine.  Referencing
> [1] though...  Does not use methodology even close to what it would take
> for us to say "majority of our users".  That's not to say the results
> wouldn't come out the same, they might but we can't tell at the moment.
>
> +1 Been trying to get people to see this for months. But it seems their
surveys are not at all scientifically based. More like complete guesswork.

>         -Mike
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