[Ambassadors] Urgent Matter

Tue Aug 31 00:42:49 UTC 2010

2010/8/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick at gmail.com>

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> El 30 de agosto de 2010 19:03, Alejandro Pérez <aeperezt at hotmail.com>escribió:
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> Manuel,
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>> This is not an Ambassadors matters, but you are right about caring for
>> users, regarding Skype many people use it but if Skype will not work
>> with the new version of KDE, there is GNOME and it is a matter for Skype
>> people, not Fedora, we do not package Skype. If Skype want to be ready
>> on the Linux and KDE world they will take care of that.
>>
>> Fedora is for innovation as you mention, but seems like you are asking
>> Fedora to stop doing it because of Skype. I'm sure Fedora Users that
>> know what Fedora is about will understand.
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 18:37 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
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>> >
>> > 2010/8/30 inode0 <inode0 at gmail.com>
>> >         2010/8/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >         > Sorry about the shouting... As I see no ambassadors are
>> >         interested in this
>> >         > I'm posting my message into KDE, Skype and other forums...
>> >         For me, the final
>> >         > user is as important as Fedora.
>> >
>> >
>> >         Slight shift to something that is ambassador related ...
>> >
>> >         I'm curious at this point what is it about Fedora that matters
>> >         to you?
>> >         Why should these users use Fedora at all? What about Fedora
>> >         draws you
>> >         to it and makes you want to promote Fedora?
>> >
>> >         John
>> >
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>> >
>> > @John: I wrote an article that explains the answer to your question
>> > for the Fedora LATAM Magazine,
>> > I'm going to give a brief answer here for you:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 1) What is about fedora that matters to me?
>> >
>> >
>> > It's care for giving the Linux user the most cutting edge technology
>> > is what has made me
>> > a faithful follower of Fedora Linux and this same "love for
>> > innovation" was what brought me
>> > into the Fedora Project world, because I personally quite like
>> > innovation, most if we're talking
>> > about computer's technology of these days...
>> >
>> >
>> > 2) Why should these users use fedora at all?
>> >
>> >
>> > I think because Fedora is the perfect mix between Technology and
>> > choice,
>> > it's free, ir's secure, it's elegant and it's capable of about
>> > everything because of
>> > it's community. If we can get more users involved into the project we
>> > can give a
>> > better service that other distros and we can have more followers that
>> > love fedora,
>> > because we have the greatest linux distribution in the world...
>> >
>> >
>> > 3) What about fedora drew me to it and made me want to promote it?
>> >
>> >
>> > My passion for innovation and the will to give the user Top Line
>> > software
>> > that is usable in their lives, For example, let me tell you an
>> > anecdote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Here at México is an organism called IEMS, this organism provides free
>> > High School
>> > Education for the mexicans and they use linux as their base system...
>> > Since years ago,
>> > they're using Mandriva for the "General" part and for the music
>> > session they used to use Ubuntu Studio.
>> >
>> >
>> > Now, Since months ago, they were having problems with Ubuntu Studio,
>> > one software they used to use didn't sound
>> > so the students weren't able to take their music class as it was
>> > suposed to be. Then in a Linux conference I met a Music teacher
>> > of ONE of these schools and called me to solve the problem because no
>> > one at that time was able to do it...
>> >
>> >
>> > I had trouble solving their problem, but at the end, my solution was
>> > changing Ubuntu Studio for Fedora, wich works great and now,
>> > what started in that ONE school, is expanding: From that day, ALL
>> > SCHOOLS of the IEMS organism are replacing Ubuntu Studio for
>> > Fedora, and the executives and bosses are in talks to standarize ALL
>> > computers with only one distribution: Fedora.
>> >
>> >
>> > Is because this stories of success I've lived with this distro I'm
>> > gonna continue working for it, I'm going to promote it
>> > and also, I'm going to support the final user who wants to use Linux
>> > and do not "have a headache", Because Linux is
>> > for everyone, but not everyone finds it as easy to use as maybe you or
>> > me find it.
>> >
>> >
>> > :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > <-Manuel Escudero->
>> > Linux User #509052
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> Yes, I know the solutions are:
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> 1) Switching to Gnome
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> 2) Stay (or downgrade in the case) to KDE 4.4
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> 3) Wait until skype's give a solution
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> 4) Only use 32 bit systems
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> I do not ask fedora to stop innovation in pro of propietary software
> (that's crazy) But I wanted you to know this because I
> wanted to know if there's something we can do to help the user... Anyway,
> let the time advances... The future will give us a veredict.
>
> Thank's for your answers...
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> I've been investigating... is Fedora's problem, not skype... Fedora 13 does
> not provide a 32 bit package for the qt libraries in their "1:4.7" version,
> only a 64 bit one, at least
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in my package manager this is what I have, and I also have a 32 bit version
but it's only of the "1:4.6" release... Hope you take this in count...

New Libraries in both architechtures seem to be present in fedora 14 and
RPMFind says in Fedora 15 too.

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