[Ambassadors] F23 media production (in EMEA)

[Gerold]

> Il 28/ott/2015 11:47 PM, "Francesco Frassinelli" <fraph24 at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>>
>> Il giorno mer, 14/10/2015 alle 17.44 -0400, Jiri Eischmann ha scritto:
>> > We can go with the same amounts again, at the regional meeting,
>> > someone suggested that we should go with a lower amount. In this
>> > case, it would make sense to only produce the minimal amount of
>> > Workstation ones.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Workstation and Alternate DVDs went equally well here in Italy: I was
>> thinking if it could be possible to have a single DVD with Workstation
>> plus some popular environment coming from Alternate.
>>
>> As robyduck said, if we are going to produce F23 Alternate DVDs we
>> cannot include every environment due to space restrictions, so, in both
>> cases we have to make a decision about what should be included and what
>> not.
>>
>> I understand that it sounds like a strange proposal, that it could be
>> too late (and I'm sorry for that) and that maybe it could weaken the
>> Workstation brand, but we had something similar in the past (multi-live
>> DVDs) and we could use the whole DVD space. That means we could have a
>> single medium, produce 1000-2000 of them, spending less, and allowing
>> people to try/install some alternative environments if they want to.
>
> Just as a note, we started this discussion already late for the original
> F23 release date. There was no reply at all about it, neither about the
> content.
> So it's rather theoretical speaking about the quantity of DVDs to be
> produced when we don't have the product itself.
> Furthermore, adding a Spin on an Edition DVD is not an option at all, we
> have three main editions and since F21 we want to promote them differently
> and don't want to mix them up. This would mean throwing into the trashcan
> all the efforts we took in place for fedora.next.
>
> Finally the actual state for EMEA only is to produce 1000 Workstation
> DVDs,
> as the overall request in our Region has been less and less in the last
> year's. Not sure if there has been an update about that, but I didn't see
> any.
>
> Kind regards.
> Robert
> --
I am more or less against media for the widest part of EMEA because most
of the EMEA Countrys (at least in Western Europe) have a good broadband
coverage to download the ISO and if needed burn it. Medias are making
sense for EMEA countrys with less broadband coverage like in the Africa or
some parts of the near East.
And also, every ISO we produce is outdated because she is not up2date and
need to be updated. Have you ever done it in the past? After a fresh
install from DvD you need to download tons of bytes to be updated.
BUT I also agree with the continous request on every event to get a Fedora
DvD. But what causes that request? Is it the DvD with the release version?
I don't think so! Is it the sleeve itself? I also don't think so! From my
perspective I think it is just a "original" DvD sleeve in combination with
the printed Artwork on the DvD ...
Why we don't announce, that we have on every event a Maschine, where
everyone can get his own ISO (no matter on which media)?
That proposal is much more cheaper than producing thousends of DvD, ship
them with high costs through EMEA (not just Western Europe) and saves us
money for more important things like events, funding trips of Ambassadors
or make an event in a Country happen, where is no Fedora presense so far.

Just my five cents
Gerold