Request: please consider clarifying the project's position on Spins

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 23:48 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but rel-eng is the only group in Fedora that
> has no instructions how to join in the wiki. For most of the Fedora
> contributors they act as a block box that is constantly working and
> magically every 6 months it a release falls out of it.
> 
> IMHO large parts of this is a communication problem. rel-eng fails to
> communicate what they do and how they do it. Just a few examples:

This has been improved markedly recently:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Release_Engineering_SOPs

>      1. As a spin owner I was not notified in when F12 test composes
>         where available for testing. Spins SIG was not notified ether.

It's actually QA which does notification of this. I've been making sure
to notify the desktop lists when test composes go out since F14.

>      2. There was a problem in the F13 LXDE spin that required a respin
>         (but no updated packages) of the image. It was not done as
>         rel-eng did not give feedback in the corresponding bug report.

There was a similar case for F14; the re-spin was ultimately not done,
but releng did at least clearly take part in the discussion and explain
why not.

>      3. I have been fighting for the multi desktop DVD and suddenly
>         someone brought up to my attention that there is an image at
>         http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/mega-dvd-test/
>         Who produced that image? Why didn't he bother to tell me?

I'm interested in that one too :)
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