GNOME as the default desktop (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Minutes - 2010-12-06)

Peter Robinson pbrobinson at gmail.com
Wed Dec 15 21:33:37 UTC 2010


On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Christoph Wickert
<christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 07.12.2010, 08:50 -0500 schrieb Jared K. Smith:
>> 2010/12/6 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg at gmail.com>:
>> > What does this mean for other *DE and various community within the project?
>>
>> In short, nothing different than things have been for the past couple of years.
>
> Some examples of what this means:
>
>      * Desktop SIG defines the default GTK theme and hardcodes the
>        theme as dependency.
>      * Desktop SIG defines gnome-icon-theme as the default icon theme
>        and hardcodes it too.
>      * These two pull in other gnome packages. It is impossible to
>        install a desktop without having fedora-gnome-theme or
>        gnome-icon-theme
>      * Some more examples of painful dependency bloat:
>        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=depchain
>      * Removal of hal-storage just a few days before beta freeze.
>      * Removal of the legacy icon names shortly before beta freeze
>        resulting in many missing icons.
>      * Removal of the notification area which and the resulting API
>        changes in libnotify 0.7.0 breaks all other desktop bug
>        gnome-shell.
>      * Change from Nodoka to Clearlooks. Many people objected, after
>        FPL spoke up the GNOME SIG promised to revisit the decision and
>        keep us informed. This did not happen.
>      * Black notifications that looked like a Ubuntu ripp-of. Again
>        many people objected, but again GNOME SIG did not care.

* They randomly update packages without notification or care of any
other dependency within the group.

Peter


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