Fedora Plasma Product, feedback please

[Josh Boyer]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 26 March 2014 10:11, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 14:29 -0500, inode0 wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>
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>> > > The KDE SIG would like public comment and feedback on a new
>> > > Fedora.next
>> > > product proposal:
>> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Plasma_Product
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>> > > mostly on the base proposal, Governance and PRD bits.  Other stuff
>> > > like
>> > > Technical spec are still undergoing polish.
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>> > I went from pretty excited initially to a bit disappointed that the
>> > PRD seems to mostly be snipped from the Workstation PRD. I was hoping
>> > for something with a more original vision I guess. So my first comment
>> > really is meant to encourage the Fedora Plasma Product to create more
>> > separation between itself and the Workstation Product. Two products
>> > with a very similar vision I suspect will be a hard sell generally.
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>> I agree with this paragraph.
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>> A product should really have a distinct use case (or cases) that it is
>> trying to address. Something like 'Fedora media center' or 'Fedora
>> kiosk' would be an excellent addition to the product lineup. If we take
>> the workstation specs and just s/G/K/ or s/G/X/, we end up back in the
>> place we were with spins - too much choice, and too little
>> differentiation.
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> Could a unified consensus of what is wanted in products please be presented
> by the Board to potential groups? Round 1 seems to have been "Here use these
> accepted PRD's and communication as a guideline for what we want." Round 2
> seems to be "Don't use these accepted PRD's and communication as a guideline
> of what we want."

I asked FESCo to open a ticket to get the Board to weigh in on this
product request.  (HINT FESCO.)

> I realize that this new all around and 'We know what we like when we finally
> see it." but  a little help might make this not a daily exercise of
> frustration.

I think your Round 2 paraphrasing is a major oversimplification.
Simply copying an existing product and changing a few things to make a
similar product doesn't mean it's magically a product.  It is not at
all unreasonable to expect noticeable differentiation in new product
proposals.

The KDE Plasma Product proposal might get there very quickly, but as
it is written today it isn't clear to everyone exactly why it's
different/needed.

josh