[Design-team] 14 December 2010 meeting minutes - the wallpaper

[wonderer]

Hello there,

here are some input ...
> Topic: Fedora 15 default wallpaper
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>
> So this was a tough topic and we discussed it for at an hour. The
> summary is that GNOME 3 is likely our most prominent Fedora 15 feature
> and the GNOME 3 team requested of our team that the wallpaper for the
> GNOME desktop in Fedora 15 should be the upstream GNOME wallpaper for
> F15 only, as sort of a special-edition / celebrating the first distro
> release of GNOME 3. The complication here is that they requested the
> GNOME wallpaper shouldn't be used by default by other spins because they
> would like a unique, recognizable brand for GNOME. The GNOME spin is the
> default download on our website, so this would result in us not having
> full Fedora branding in our default download nor across our offerings.
> The GNOME team has a challenge in that they would like to set a
> recognizable GNOME visual style across distros, but it's hard to do that
> when distros have distro-specific default wallpapers and brands of their
> own to promote.
I personally asked myself at this point how other distros react on that.
Do other Distros put in that wallpaper as default as well? How many are
there?
> The wallpaper in question is viewable here:
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-themes-standard/plain/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg
Well, personally like it as a lead, a scribble, an idea to go with, but
if anybody of our design team has made such a wallpaper the Design-Guide
and other hints and tipps would came up.
> I want to note that the GNOME team approached us reasonably early now in
> the Fedora 15 cycle, and made this request of us recognizing that the
> Board has granted this design team the decision of the default wallpaper
> for Fedora. 
Hmm, do we not have that right of decision what design, wallpapers and
Iconset we use? Sounds a little bit strange...
> While understandably some of you may interpret this as a
> negative against against our team, I want to make it clear there is no
> ill-will in this request and rather the GNOME 3 team is dealing with a
> very challenging branding situation and is hoping for our support.
>
> That being said, it does seem from the meeting that many of you are
> against this request. I've brought the matter to Jared's attention and
> is currently analyzing the situation, weighing all of our options, and
> that looking for some sort of win-win compromise for both our teams. In
> either case, we will need a Fedora wallpaper design for Fedora 15, so we
> should continue our efforts there.
Hmm, maybe we can make a little Design-challenge out of it: use THAT
wallpaper and make it fedora...
Is it also possible to discuss that issue together with the Gnome guys
in one of the next IRC meetings as well? Maybe some things will come
clearer then. It can be a very innovative thing to have one wallpaper in
ALL distros which uses Gnome, but I think there we all need some
democratic consensus... maybe...

For me it has a taste of one big player can come and ask for something
and "the boss" tells the teams what to do - even if some/most of them
are not so fine with that decision. I'm not saying that it is so, but
what if we decide "against" to use the Gnome "dictated" wallpaper? What
if all other distros use that vs. no-one will use it? Can we risk to
have our own Fedora-Branding vs. loose against beeing innovative? What
will RH say if we decide against that? Will RH make a big black marker
in a book and next time we get some kind of punishment, because we are
"the rebellious child"?

I know I overdraw that picture a bit ... maybe not ... but the fact is
that this seem to be a serious point of decision.
>
> Topic: Fedora 15 sketching session
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>
> You can connect to it using sftp or ssh. SSH to fedorapeople.org, then
> cd to /srv/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora Release Themes/F15/Concept
> Sketches.
Wel, I have no access to that directory (can see it, but no uploading
other then my own dir).
So my idea could be found at
http://wonderer.fedorapeople.org/F15_sketch001_wonderer.png
Hope that helps a bit...

mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org

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