Fedora 13 Schedule

[John Poelstra]

On 11/25/2009 01:45 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:09 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
>> On 11/25/2009 05:58 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:44 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The basic structure of Fedora 13 schedule has been set and will soon go
>>>>> to FESCo for final approval.  Once that happens I will build proposed
>>>>> schedules for: Documentation, Translation, Design, Marketing, and Websites.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule
>>>>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-releng-tasks.html
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have constructive feedback for altering or enhancing the
>>>>> schedule, now is the time to give it.  If it would be helpful to create
>>>>> a public Desktop specific schedule I'd be glad to help with that as well.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I have much constructive feedback, other than that the
>>>> development phase seems very short, with holidays and whatnot.
>>>
>>> I was just looking at that as well, and have came up with 5 months of
>>> development/testing (including from date F12 was released) for the
>>> cycle?  Just curious, isn't that kind of short?  And as stated above,
>>> not even realy 5 months, since all the major holidays are included in
>>> this cycle.
>>>
>>
>> Fedora does not usually factor in holidays.  I've attempted to include
>> them in previous schedule drafts, but they were dismissed by others as
>> not being relevant to Fedora since we don't have official work days,
>> office hours, etc..  Granted if a serious freeze or release date
>> occurred during a major holiday period I'm sure they would reconsider,
>> but our release dates are such that they don't.
>
> I've seen plenty of earlier discussion where rel-eng was carefully
> trying to triangulate the release date around thanksgiving or easter.
> It seems somewhat unfair to say that rel-eng get to take holidays, but
> developers are expected to work straight through... :-)
>

That does sound inconsistent.  Which releases did this happen for and 
where did the discussion take place?

John