Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

[Josh Boyer]

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 15:45 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 20:30 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> >> On fös 13.des 2013 17:28, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> >> > Really?
>> >> >
>> >> > The KDE SIG has full access to change what gets installed when you
>> >> > install from the DVD. If you're saying it's releng and FESCo's
>> >> > responsibility to fix that, then as a releng and FESCo member, I'll fix it...
>> >>
>> >> Who decided what's shipped on the dvd ?
>> >
>> > So avoiding the grandstanding, I'd say FESCo probably is the arbiter of
>> > 'what major groups do we put on the DVD?', but it's not FESCo's job to
>> > micro-manage specifically what packages are in each group.
>> >
>> > So it's not necessarily the KDE SIG's job/role to decide whether KDE can
>> > go on the DVD - that is up to a Higher Power - but it *is* KDE SIG's
>> > job/role to maintain the actual KDE package groups in comps. Ditto for
>> > Desktop/GNOME.
>>
>> If both major DE groups don't care about the DVD contents because they
>> feel their respective Spins are their main concern, then it's not
>> entirely hyperbolic to just not ship the DVD at all.
>
> Let's clarify before we go too far down this path: jreznik told me this
> was the case for KDE SIG. Other members of KDE SIG don't seem to be
> quite so clear about it, and no-one from desktop SIG has said they don't
> curate their DVD contents and don't think that package set is important.
> Sorry if the discussion so far has given a different impression.

You didn't give that impression.  I was extrapolating and
pontificating.  It's Friday. :)

>>   I think we're
>> already heading down this path with the 3 product approach, so it's
>> not something to be cast aside as unrealistic.
>
> You can see which path the 3 product approach is headed down?! Where do
> I sign to borrow your crystal ball? :)

With 3 products, I don't think it takes a crystal ball to foresee that
the existing DVD is either going to be changed significantly or not
exist.  I was leaning towards "not exist".

josh