The “Windows Just Works” BIG fallacy

Diogo Campos (gmail) diogocamposwd at gmail.com
Tue May 12 17:12:38 UTC 2015


>>  # Codecs = MP3, AAC, H.264, H.265, Vorbis, Opus, VP8, VP9.
>> 
>> 
>>  Windows: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No.
>> 
>>  Fedora: No, No, No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes,Yes.
>> 
>> 
>>  Conclusion: analyzing the 8 (4 audio, 4 video) current big codecs 
>> on the
>>  market, we have a tie! Is also worth noting that installing 
>> additional
>>  codecs on Windows is of a equivalent pain that on Fedora.
> 
> Those codecs do not have an equal market share.

Probably because the OS that supports these codecs has 95% of market 
share.

I strongly suspect that this is more of a convenience thing, like: 
"let's distribute this work in MP3, because it will work on every 
system".

So, changing the OS scenario (market share) will automatically change 
the codecs scenario (market share).

>>  # Office Stuff = xls(x), doc(x), ppt(x), ods, odt, odp.
>> 
>> 
>>  Windows: No, No, No, No, No, No.
>> 
>>  Fedora: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.
>> 
>> 
>>  Conclusion: in (Microsoft) Windows, even to open files from another
>>  Microsoft product (Office), you can't without additional work from 
>> you (or
>>  someone else).
> 
> Well you can open doc/x files using Wordpad. But given that most OEMs
> ship some version of Office that's a moot point.

As I said, I am comparing "stock Windows" with "stock Fedora" ("stock" 
meaning: freshly installed system from a official media/ISO).

So, of course I get your point, but you can NOT involve OEMs in THIS 
comparison.

>>  # Miscellaneous = PDF, torrent, common archives.
>> 
>> 
>>  Windows: No(!), No, No.
>> 
>>  Fedora: Yes, Yes(?), Yes (except RAR, for no reason).
> 
> Where is the free RAR implementation? (That's probably the only 
> reason)

Here: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/unar

(is needed only for RAR 3.0 - which is a bit common)

> And btw. I don't think installing a torrent client by default makes 
> any sense.

What a pity, distributed downloads are awesome.

> As for PDF that's true but OEMs tend to include something.

I understand. But, again, no OEMs: see above.

>>  # Graphic Cards = Intel, AMD, Nvidia.
>> 
>> 
>>  Windows: No, No, No.
> 
> -> Wrong; Wrong; Wrong

Nope, Nope, Nope.

Install Windows from a "Windows CD" and your graphic card will NOT work 
for serious until you install a driver from Windows Update or from the 
wild internet.

>>  Fedora: Yes, Yes, Yes.
>> 
>> 
>>  Conclusion: Oh, boy! Windows without video drivers is pure garbage! 
>> You have
>>  to, at minimum, select to install the driver on Windows Update to 
>> have 2D
>>  (and 3D) acceleration! Sometimes even to have the correct 
>> resolution! On
>>  other hand, Fedora comes with all these preinstalled! Yay!
> 
> The days of Windows XP are over. This has been much better i.e "just
> works" since Vista.

Yes. But not that much. At least until Windows 7, not the sufficient to 
make Fedora "eat dust" in a FAIR comparison.

> So you might not like it but it "works better" out of the box for 
> most people.

Yes. BECAUSE of previous additional work from someone. Be OEM, or a 
friend, etc.

> "Oh windows is bad" doesn't really help us

Sad. I thought a (positive) reality check could be a little helpful 
(and encouraging) for the community.

>   ... "Windows does X and Y better" OTOH does because it allows us to 
> improve.

Ok. Windows does market monopoly and social alienation better.
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