cyrus-imapd (Was Re: Removed packages

Anduin Withers awithers at anduin.com
Thu Apr 7 15:57:39 UTC 2005


> Community driven doesnt mean including everything by default in core.

There is a set that exists somewhere between "everything" and "just the
defaults".

As has already been pointed out there are a number of "duplicate" things
that will always be part of core. You can also include several duplicate
things before begging to approach everything.

> We shouldnt be looking at packages moving from core to extras as removal
> of choice at all. Since fc4 will have extras enabled by default its easy
> enough to install it using yum if you prefer anything over stuff
> included in core already.

There is an amount of utility to having things available on a CD, even more
so on the official Fedora CDs. From this thread moving to extras seems like
somewhat of a new idea (we witnessed solicitations for a contributor willing
to take it over). That doesn't exactly inspire confidence that this is all
part of a well thought out plan.

More importantly is this a policy change? Is deprecated no longer a valid
state for a package to transition through? Can any package be deemed not
worthy and thrown in the air with the hopes that someone will step up and
maintain it at Extras?

> not sure about extras isos. you will have to ask Seth but fedora core
> being trimmed down to 1 cd  looks like a good idea to me

While we're at it, why not just make core the network install boot image?
After all, a logically and physically small install set is Fedora's primary
goal.

It seems to me there are extremists on both sides of the issue, each have a
point, yet the distribution each would produce is one I'd have little
interest in.

-- 
Anduin Withers


> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-devel-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rahul Sundaram
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:11 AM
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core
> Subject: Re: cyrus-imapd (Was Re: Removed packages
> 
> Hi
> 
> >
> >I ever thought Fedora was Community Driven. It seems like RedHat needs
> >another argument for Enterprise Linux.
> >
> Community driven doesnt mean including everything by default in core.
> Thats the only way to try and please everyone. core should only include
> default apps. dovecot is the current default.
> 
> 
> 
> > If i ever read anything about
> >OpenSource it is the Freedom of Choice. What Choice? Which additional
> >Repo i have to use to get my Desktop/Server up and running?
> >
> We shouldnt be looking at packages moving from core to extras as removal
> of choice at all. Since fc4 will have extras enabled by default its easy
> enough to install it using yum if you prefer anything over stuff
> included in core already.
> 
> 
> >
> >Maybe someday we have a extra.iso.dvd and core fits on 1 CDRom
> >
> 
> not sure about extras isos. you will have to ask Seth but fedora core
> being trimmed down to 1 cd  looks like a good idea to me
> 
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