systemd and changes

Dennis Gilmore dennis at ausil.us
Wed Aug 25 03:31:21 UTC 2010


On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 07:32:42 pm Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On 08/24/2010 08:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> Having to support multiple boot paths for the system, making everyone
> >> who gets odd bugs filed against kernel, dracut, plymouth, etc. triage
> >> them isn't exactly an 'easy fix' - it *adds* complication to both
> >> paths.
> > 
> > Right. In fact, I think we're supporting way too many deprecated
> > alternatives for way too long, e.g. when will the old legacy "network"
> > service which has been deprecated for ages finally be gone?
> > 
> > Of course it makes sense to keep deprecated stuff around when it's needed
> > to make things work, e.g. HAL is still needed for KDE right now (but
> > that might already be resolved by F15 since work on new u* Solid
> > backends is going strong upstream, also thanks to Fedora developers from
> > Red Hat Czech), but I don't see anything requiring e.g. the old
> > "network" to stay around.
> 
> Isn't "network" needed for people who don't run NetworkManager?
> 
> For the longest time, NM only worked predictably for logged-in users,
> which made "network" service a requirement for servers with static IPs
> and such.
> 
> 	Jeff
There are still use cases that NetworkManager doesnt handle.  RHEL 6 still 
defaults to network on servers not sure about workstation installs.

there is likely going to be a need for it for some time yet

Dennis
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