fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com
Mon Aug 30 16:03:39 UTC 2010


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On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
>> The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different
>> than the fire hose we have now are silently leaving, and those that are
>> left are going to say they like the deluge of updates.
> 
> You say that as if it were a negative thing.

To me it is.  It's you and people like you that want to shove a ton of
updates down the throats of our stable release users (including changes
that alter behavior and sonames etc...) that have ruined the Fedora I
helped to build.  I want my Fedora back, I don't want what you're creating.

 It's actually very positive, it
> means we have found our niche and set some very specific expectations in our 
> user base! We should stick to that and not suddenly turn around half-turn.

We've found our niche, but chasing away our previous niche (and having
less users show up in our tracking mechanism for it)  It's getting to
the point where me, as a long time Fedora developer and sometimes
leader, is not enjoying using Fedora any more.  Every update run can
break things, and often does.  Every update takes for ever because there
are so many updates.  Too many to review each one and see what it does,
and how to maybe test it and provide feedback.  Updates runs just get
pushed off longer and longer so that I have a block of time to A) apply
the damn things, and B) spend a few hours recovering from any sort of
fallout in my workflow.  If I don't enjoy using the product I'm
creating, that doesn't bode well.


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Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
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