fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

seth vidal skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Mon Aug 30 18:30:38 UTC 2010


On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:22 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.
> 
> The changes towards a distribution that attracts people who live in
> the moment happened a while back, and has been building momentum for
> quite some time. Trying to erect barriers now is not going to help but
> make it so nothing exists afterwords. The things that can be done are:
> A) get out of the way, B) go with the flow, or C) figure out what you
> can build on top of it.  [I am looking at option C]
> 
> > We've found our niche, but chasing away our previous niche (and having
> > less users show up in our tracking mechanism for it)  It's getting to
> > the point where me, as a long time Fedora developer and sometimes
> > leader, is not enjoying using Fedora any more.  Every update run can
> 
> What was our previous niche? That is what people seemed so hard to
> ever quantify beyond knowing "what it isn't". The people I know who
> are running Ubuntu now instead of RHL or Fedora are doing it because
> that distribution 'fills in the blanks' for them that RHL/Fedora never
> seemed to answer. It has a vision, it has a single voice where they
> feel it is needed. Fedora has never been that. (heck even RHL was
> never that as you couldn't get any of the RH developers to agree on
> much :)).
> 


I think the RHL niche was:
1. reasonably current
2. updated to a new release every 6months
3. supported for security/errata for 3yrs
4. free

-sv




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