fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

[Jesse Keating]

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On 8/30/10 10:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Wow, and everyone gets categorical again. You can disagree with people,
> but this is a bit different. Yes, amazingly, things do matter on a six
> month timeframe in the 'real world' (whatever that is). Example - I got
> a laptop. The graphics on it don't work, except for vesa, which is very
> slow (can't play video, and yes, that matters to me) and doesn't run at
> native resolution (yes, that matters to me). If Ben doesn't land a fix
> for this in Fedora 13's kernel I have to either wait six months to be
> able to use my laptop, upgrade it to F14 (which kind of obviates the
> point of having a stable release), or run the proprietary driver. None
> of these feel like great options.
> 
> Just saying, yes, sometimes, it really is reasonable to not want to wait
> six months for something to get fixed, and please try to at least
> vaguely consider the possibility that your theoretical principles may
> not always apply perfectly. Maybe we don't want Fedora to be Rawhide,
> but maybe we also don't want it to be a distro where nothing ever gets
> updated either...

Where do you see somebody proposing that no updates be issued?  Where do
you see somebody proposing a setup where fixing a graphics card can't be
done in the stable release kernel?  You've built up a nice strawman that
you've lovingly kicked down.

I don't think anybody wants to prevent fixing a graphics chip issue in a
kernel update.  What we wouldn't like to see is dragging in a brand new
xorg major release and kernel major release and dri major release in
order to make that happen.  Do you see a difference there?

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Jesse Keating
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