Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

[drago01]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Peter Jones wrote:
>
>> On 07/28/2010 02:25 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
>> > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Peter Jones wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 07/28/2010 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 11:37 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:04:46PM +0200, Florent Le Coz wrote:
>> >>>>>   On 28/07/2010 14:52, Mike McGrath wrote:
>> >>>>>> In my opinion including software that even upstream says is not ready is
>> >>>>>> for a distribution that's "lost their way".  We can still be a leading
>> >>>>>> distribution and not include pre-release software.  Especially pre-release
>> >>>>>> software that's not only in our critical path, but also something that
>> >>>>>> almost all of us use every day.
>> >>>>> I agree, but doesn't that mean that Firefox 4.0 won't be available in
>> >>>>> F14 at all and will only be in F15?
>> >>>>> I think it would be a huge drawback for Fedora 14.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would be huge if there people who can't live without it didn't have
>> >>>> any other way of getting it than having it pre-packaged.  I think
>> >>>> Firefox 4 looks to be fantastic, but the truth is that people only
>> >>>> have to wait a few months for a release with it pre-packaged, if
>> >>>> they're not able to add it on their own.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd rather we provide them a package than have people going out and
>> >>> installing software from third-party sources (yes, mozilla.org is hardly
>> >>> Evil, but it sets a bad precedent). I really don't see much of a reason
>> >>> we can't ship it as a post-release update. We'd probably want to do that
>> >>> in the end anyway, because Mozilla tends to stop security supporting old
>> >>> branches anyway; it's certainly plausible that they stop supporting 3.x
>> >>> during F14's support lifetime.
>> >>
>> >> Just because it isn't in the F14 repo doesn't mean it won't be available to
>> >> people who really want a packaged version earlier - look at spot's chromium
>> >> packages, for example.  And I really expect the F14-F15 time frame to be a very
>> >> similar situation with Firefox - just because it's released doesn't mean there
>> >> isn't some time to wait before it's really shippable.  6 months won't be the
>> >> end of the world, especially if it's added to an add-on repo someplace so
>> >> people can get it if they really want something other than ff3.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Perhaps it's time to figure out how to make things like Tom's chromium
>> > more official.  Find actual hosting/mirroring for that stuff, make a clear
>> > path to get people to it but also letting them know "hey, your milage may
>> > vary".
>>
>> I would really like to see kopers happen, yes.  That'd be great.
>>
>
> Maybe I'm mistaken, I thought kopers was just for building.  Does it
> encompass hosting, distribution and such?

IIRC yes, it just needs to happen .... someday ;)