Orphaning DR17 and EFL

Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert at googlemail.com
Wed Mar 17 01:02:42 UTC 2010


Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 22:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen:

> The real reason to get the packages orphaned is the continued
> annoyance of cwickert on IRC (#fedora-de), trying to force me into the
> role of the bad guy there, since he did not understand the problem,
> even not in the FESCo Meeting from today. See the FESCo ticket to get
> a hint of what was going on in #fedora-de.
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/355
> Trying to force anybody into pushing an untested release into F-13.
> You can see that even in the Meeting log. Instead of let me do my job
> as package maintainer. So i'm really sick and tired and give it away.
> 
> Coming back to that social problem mentioned. The rel-eng ticket was
> clearly mentioned in #fedora-de and even to cassmodiah (if i have to
> upload backlogs, cassmodiah == boelkmoeller3), not just by me, but as
> well by cwickert. Everything was talked about, as well what i want to
> do.
> The only social problem here was an arrogant and stubborn cwickert.
> Sorry, but i can't stand a liar.

Please don't call me a liar if you are not even telling half the truth:
      * Several people - me included - repeatedly offered to their help
        to fix the breakage that your co-maintainer caused. In order to
        help you, they need details like build logs etc, but you even
        refused to tell which packages are causing problems. We asked
        you several times, but got no reply.
      * You claim that two packages are broken, but according to Rudolf
        everything does build fine and it's just a "trivial update".
      * You claimed that you wanted to brief your co-maintainer and
        explain him everything in detail. This never happened. The mail
        you sent him is full of accusations, but no technical details.
      * You claimed that in order to update you needed new packages that
        will not be ready in time for F13, while others confirmed the
        stack does build with the packages that are currently in Fedora.
      * You had several weeks for testing, updates or submitting
        reviews. None of this happened.
      * In the trac ticket you claim that the update path was broken
        through the embryo update. This is not true. There have been
        broken deps for weeks, but not a broken upgrade path.
      * Several neutral observers of the conversation in fedora-de#
        today said you were argued illogical, e.g.
      * You said you needed testers, but you refused to build the
        packages at least in rawhide. Without packages there will be no
        testers, simple as that.
      * You repeatedly insulted people (not only me) on IRC.

If you refuse to answer a simple yes/no question and wont let people
help you, then I really think there is a social problem.

Regards,
Christoph



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