How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat at
Sun May 9 12:34:48 UTC 2010

/*Frank Murphy <frankly3d at>*/ wrote on 05/09/2010 4:20:15 PM +0450:
> On 09/05/10 12:34, Björn Persson wrote:
>> Frank Murphy wrote:
>>> That *should not* be default for most users,
>>> as it will end up breaking quite a lot,
>>> if used with other repos. (updates,updates-tesing, 3rd party)
>> If using the DVD together with the updates repository would break quite a lot,
> That's just my bad explanation. (not enough coffee)
> What I should have said:
> If the user does not know how to mount a CD\DVD.
> (which is automatic?)
> Should they be given usage of PackageKit,
> which at the least would require root (p\w) or sudo (within terminal).
> If it is a bandwidth $cost,
> could not the CD\DVD ~/packages be copied to ~/local/folder,
> and shared with a number of users.
> along with update\3rd Party repo (as they are downloaded).
> using yum*local, hence reducing the $cost.
> (also reduces media swapping)
> Still no need for a PackageKit rfe fix.
> Frank
Well, sorry but you simply don't get it! Give a Fedora DVD to a new 
Linux user and tell him to install it on his own system. Then ask him to 
install Eclipse from DVD since he will most probably NOT opt to 
customize his package set in the installation process. Make sure that he 
has no Internet access, and do NOT help him in the process. He will be 
certainly unable to do so. Then do this for him yourself and see how 
frightened is him.

If you get him an Ubuntu DVD, you'll see that he can happily use it 
without your help. And you'll see why he will think that Ubuntu is much 
easier than Fedora. If you have not see this at all, I've seen this 
frequently. Fedora sucks in this area for many years. I've seen it, so 
whatever arguments you bring; I KNOW that this bug IS very important and 
should be fixed.
Excuse me, I'm looking for a solution, not for wiping the problem 


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