Reasons for hall monitoring

Thomas Janssen thomasj at
Wed May 12 07:02:14 UTC 2010

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at> wrote:
> Fedora is that better, sustainable way. It's not elitist, everyone is
> welcome to participate with the understanding that part of making that
> choice can involve the giving up some conveniences in the short term
> in the commitment to the larger goals of a sustainable free software
> ecosystem. If your not comfortable with that expectation, then we'll
> warmly let you pass through on your way to another community that will
> better cater to your desires. But we aren't going to cater to
> unsustainable convenience food.
> And if that principled approach is not the most popular.. it doesn't
> mean its worth giving up. We need to shake loose the idea that being
> the most popular matters. What I want is contributor targets to shoot
> for. I want a clear vision by which we can recruit contributors...not
> users.  Maybe Mike is right and we are going to see a big dip in users
> when RHEL 6 comes out and people junk to that stable offering. And
> where he sees a negative. I see success.
> We position this project as leading edge. If people have been using
> Fedora as a forerunner to RHEL 6 and now find they want long term
> stability...then great. We did exactly what we said we would do for
> those people and now their needs are such that a stable base makes
> mroe sense. We are NOT all things to all people. Its GOOD to see
> people who need stability moving to RHEL instead of asking us to be
> that as well as leading edge.
> And since we don't promise to provide everything to everyone then I
> fully expect to see a cyclic process in our contributor and user base.
> I expect to see periods of die-off as well as growrth. I expect that
> in any system which aims to be sustainable.
> The issue for me is are we prepared for the cycle of renewal. Are we
> prepared to recruit contributors into participating into new leading
> edge directions?

Thank you very much! I wish i could write as eloquent as you, would
make my posts less trollish.

LG Thomas

Dubium sapientiae initium

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