Fedora 13 Release Candidate Phase

Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com
Sat May 15 03:27:51 UTC 2010

On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 19:42 -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 13:45 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >
> >>> current karma next to each push request? Or maybe Bodhi could be
> >>> configured to automatically cancel stable requests when the karma drops
> >>> below 0?
> >>
> >> I can look at doing this on the client side for pushes.  That's a pretty good
> >> idea.  Could you file a ticket against bodhi and assign it to me so I don't
> >> forget?
> >
> > we've pretty much established already that numerical karma is a bad
> > concept; I think it'd be better for to automatically rescind the request
> > (or warn) if any negative feedback is posted after the push request but
> > before the push, never mind what the overall numerical value is.
> Jumping in late here... obviously there are some concerns /cancelling/ 
> the push. What about improving the tools so that such updates don't get 
> pushed in the mass pushes but simply flagged as needing review? That way 
> rel-eng could know to actually look at these instead of blindly trusting 
> the maintainer, that maybe hasn't had time to react. That way if it is 
> something silly, rel-eng can still push it anyway, but there is more 
> chance to catch real problems.
> This assumes that the % of packages that get negative karma between 
> request and push is low, of course, but I would think that is the case.
> -- 
> Matthew
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What is releng supposed to do here though?  We can't be experts in every
package.  How are we to know that the negative karma is really
appropriately negative, or bad negative, or just misfiled or confused
users?  That's what the maintainer is for.

Jesse Keating
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