Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at gmail.com
Sat Nov 6 19:04:53 UTC 2010

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 02:43, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>> On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> >> Richard W.M. Jones (rjones at redhat.com) said:
>> >>>> Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the
>> >>>> right time getting involved in the discussion.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> What's the implication for people who absolutely need to use
>> >>> X applications remotely?
>> >>
>> >> Use VNC. (Or your similar protocol of choice.)
>> >
>> > That's not a serious alternative.
>>  From what I've read so far you can run rootless X as a Wayland client so
>> you can just use your remote X apps like you did in the past next to native
>> Wayland apps. Also if there is a real interest in this feature then this
>> could be implemented for Wayland it would just not be part of the core.
> And what happens when all the apps are native Wayland apps and
> none of those can be run remotely?
> If I wanted to step back to the pre-net era, I'd run Windows.

Well when the X people say there is a limit to what X can do over a
network reasonably and that a different approach is needed then maybe
just maybe they know what they are talking about. Jeez. its not like
people are taking X away tomorrow. Nor are they saying X is going away
just that the monolithic nature it was designed around does not make
sense anymore and changes need to be done.

But hey..  it is fun to be the guy who yells "They will take X away
from me when they can pry it from my cold dead hand!" I wonder if "X
doesn't kill people, I do." sounds as good.. nah..

> Rich.
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