F15 Alpha impressions

drago01 drago01 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 27 17:36:07 UTC 2011

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>> On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>> >
>> > When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
>> > I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
>> > or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
>> > control tab.
>> I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
>> supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
>> already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
>> instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance
>> is started.
>> Also you don't need to click on "Activities" but can simply move the mouse
>> to the upper left corner to open the favorites. While this takes some
>> getting used to I think it makes sense. Simply "throw" you mouse into the
>> upper left corner and then click on Firefox.
> OK, got the corner thing with the mouse, seems to work.  Still hate it.
> Seems more work to do...move mouse, click on icon, then start.  Instead
> of just going to workspace/icon or whatever and clicking on it.

Give it some time, it is different than what you are used to, after
lets say a week it will feel natural to you (up to the point that you
will throw your mouse
into the upper left corner on other OSes ;) ).

>> >
>> > I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
>> > tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
>> I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and
>> other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work
>> at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over
>> an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a
>> label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive.
>> This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label:
>> 1. Update icon appears
>> 2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it
>> 3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label
>> 4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable
>> 5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position
>> 6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer => continue
>> at 2.
>> 7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do
>> in the first place: click that icon.

This is a bug see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636930

> Yep, experienced same thing with the bottom right icons.  But as you
> said, hypocritical when can't do it at the top over time/date/etc..but
> in the bottom it's set to, yet have to hit it at right spot for it to
> work.

It is not hypocritical as *you* made up the reason for the tooltips
not being there (hover is used in a lot of different places in the

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