thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

[Reindl Harald]

Am 22.07.2011 19:16, schrieb drago01:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>>
>> Am 22.07.2011 16:33, schrieb drago01:
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 21.07.2011 13:14, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
>>>>> On 07/20/2011 11:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>>>> hopefully systemd will aslo live for 40 years as sysvinit
>>>>>> did or the next replacement will be finished BEFORE release
>>>>>> including the correspondending parts of the distribution
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to be clear as this has been mentioned several times in recent threads:
>>>>> System V style initialisation is _not_ 40 years old. SysV was only released in
>>>>> 1983 (and even after that time there were alternatives - the BSDs never adopted
>>>>> this approach to system initialisation).
>>>>
>>>> so let it be 28 years now
>>>
>>> Still way too old ... technology has advanced a lot in the past 28 years
>>
>> this is poor argumentation which too many peopole follow unreflected
> 
> Its not any poorer then "it has been like that for 28 years so don't
> dare to change it".
> Where the sole reason for this kind of arguments seem to be "I
> can't/don't want to learn anything new" ... which is really tiresome.
> Working with technology like this requires change and / or learning
> something new at some point. You cant just get used to one thing and
> think you can stick to that for the rest of your life

you do not know anything what i am learning and working every day
i am learning, optimizing and rewriting software all day long
but not with a good reason or if some liked improvement is
not bigger than the bad things coming with it

if fedora as distribution decides to change things than the
distribution with ALL packages have to be fixed / improved

why?
normally a user can not rebuild / fix packages
if things worked for a long time and after replacing them
packages of the distribution are broken this is not really
my area - it should not happen

learning:
THIS is the state of learning on fedora/redhat-side, a little late!
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426#c33
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426#c33
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426#c40

NOBODY has clear ideas what the guidelines are saying
and F15 is GA since a longer time
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714426#c47

so please do not tell me what is tiresome
i tell you: a release like F15 is tiresome

topic learning:
as long the whole distribution is a wild mix of systemd/lsb/sysvinit
there is nothing to learn because the whole system is currently diry
in my eyes and after ALL fedora packages using the from fedora decided
init-system and all the bugs going with this are fixed starts the
time to learn for users

currently many packagers seems to be in a early learning state, but
no probmem we release unfinished things, break basiscs like "df"
and writing guidelines for unbaken cakes - wonderful!




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