Dropping the ownership model

[Jon Ciesla]

>
> As much as we have disagreed on the previous topic we might have similar
> thoughts here :).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg at gmail.com>
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>> <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:51:31 PM
>> Subject: Dropping the ownership model
>>
>> What do people see as pros and cons continuing to use the current
>> package ownership model?
>>
>> Would it be practical to dropping it altogether which in essence
>> would
>> make every contributor an "proven packager"?
>
> Well, everyone becoming a proven packager is going too far from the
> beginning.
> Though I have to say that this approach worked quite good in Mandriva in
> the past.
> I still remember misc telling me "please don't break too much" . For the
> few years I maintained packages there
> I haven't seen a single case of someone abusing his powers.
>
>>
>> Would it be viable to move to something like language SIG based
>> ownership of packages?
>
> SIGs are quite good idea and making more use of them can help providing
> more structure when in need of getting help.
>
>
>>
>> As in lower the barrier of entry of contributor without the need and
>> or
>> introduction of an package or any sponsorship and have them assigned
>> to
>> relevant SIG based on language they either know or want to learn. (
>> not
>> necessarly having to tie packaging with code contribution ).
>>
>> The governing body of the SIG would in essence be the once that would
>> be
>> responsible for the components.
>
> Well SIGs don't really have governing bodies and it is always good to have
> a concrete name when you look for contacts for some package.
> Probably packages can be assigned to person and SIG and they are open for
> everyone from the SIG but still having a concrete name you can talk to.
> Essentially the SIG will be the owner of the package and a person(s) will
> be listed as something like primary contact(s).
>
>>
>> So as an example a indvidual skilled in Java who would want to join
>> the
>> project would automatically be assigned to the java SIG which in turn
>> would be assigned and managing all Java related components then the
>> Java
>> SIG based on what ever process/workflow they have decided would
>> assign
>> to that individual what ever task is needed at current times
>> prioritized
>> by the knowledge and resource they posses.
>
> As we(Java SIG) have quite similar approach aka someone from the SIG is
> taking a task
>  he wants to work on and do it no matter who is the
> maintainer/co-maintainers the current
> situation is a bit annoying because people have to collect way too many
> permissions in pkgdb
> and this is either slowing down the process or depending on some
> provenpackager to push the work.
> Such a SIG approach to packaging will definetely make it easier and as
> long as the packager has
> access only to the SIG's packages this should not scare other SIGs because
> new packager in certain
> SIG wouldn't be able to touch other SIGs packages.

This might better reflect reality anyway.  There are packages I own where
someone else has done most of the heavy lifting for awhile, and others
that other people own where I'm doing the heavy lifting.  It takes a
village, etc, etc.

-J

> Alexander Kurtakov
>
>>
>> So basically the barrier of entry is no higher than what the
>> individual
>> wants to learn or knows already as in..
>>
>> Do you know or want to learn python. Join the python SIG etc...
>>
>> Do you want to learn distribution packaging join the Packaging SIG
>>
>> Or the individual would learn how to package components relevant to
>> the
>> SIG he just joined
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Far off and totally crazy, you are mad!
>>
>> What meds are you on can I have some?
>>
>> The SIG approach is something that actually might work...
>>
>> JBG
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