openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

Richard W.M. Jones rjones at
Mon Sep 12 07:56:00 UTC 2011

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:11:50AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Frank Murphy wrote:
> > Is not rawhide "the sanity check",
> Yes.
> > even if used productively by many?
> That's the problem then. Rawhide is explicitly labeled as NOT being intended 
> nor suitable for any sort of production use.

This isn't about high quality QA for production use.  It's about
sanity checking that (eg) the kernel boots or that critical daemons
start up.

In libguestfs, we have a simple %check section that runs hundreds of
tests on the kernel, qemu and many core filesystem packages (it's not
our intention to test these packages, but we do that as a side


Why can't openssh have a %check section?  The kernel??  Qemu???  It's
not that hard.  (Or rather: it is hard but only because other
packagers just stuff things into Rawhide without any sanity checking
at all)

I thought AutoQA was going to do this, but it's been disappointing.
Anyone should be able to add package tests to it without the current
system which apparently requires central coordination.



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