Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

[Kevin Kofler]

Florian Müllner wrote:
> I can not comment on the quality of the library, but GNOME did comment
> on the spec[0] (or rather: several gnomers did) - there were a couple of
> objections, none of which have been addressed in the spec as far as I
> can tell.

The objections weren't addressed because they objected to the very point of 
the spec, making it impossible to address them without defeating the purpose 
of the spec.

One main design goal of the spec was that it should NOT be the app's job to 
decide how exactly the icon will look, but the shell's. And it makes sense: 
Look at how gnome-shell deprecated the system tray entirely because it 
looked totally out of place there, and is forcing everyone who wants an icon 
in the panel to implement a GNOME-specific shell extension in JavaScript. 
Yet Plasma can deliver the same integrated look (supplying its own 
monochrome icons and displaying its own Plasma-themed menus) for system tray 
icons using the new status notifier spec (and the D-Bus menu spec for the 
menus, though the status notifier spec predates the D-Bus menu spec and thus 
also allows for displaying the menu in process). How would you be able to 
adjust the presentation to the shell's design if the app tells you that it 
wants some overlay placed at offset (5,7) of the icon as Dan Winship 
requested?! Such a request just makes no sense whatsoever because the app 
doesn't (and shouldn't!) even know how the icon and the overlay look like! 
Offset (5,7) may work great with the desktop shell and theme you tested 
with, but cover the most important part of the icon elsewhere! Yet when 
Aaron Seigo and Marco Martin explained exactly that, the discussion just 
dried off and GNOME decided to ignore the spec, when actually its design 
would also make status notifiers much more useful for gnome-shell than the 
XEmbed junk.

The status notifier spec was started by KDE and adopted by Canonical, it was 
the opposite for the D-Bus menu spec. In both cases, KDE/Plasma and 
Canonical/Unity cooperate nicely, only GNOME keeps doing its own, 
incompatible thing. Cross-desktop status notifiers and native Plasma widgets 
(plasmoids) can sit right next to each other in the Plasma system tray and 
look and feel the same, why can't gnome-shell offer the same integrated 
experience rather than deprecating everything other than gnome-shell-only 
extensions?

        Kevin Kofler