/usrmove? -> about the future

[Reindl Harald]

Am 10.02.2012 19:15, schrieb Jef Spaleta:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 19:02 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2012 07:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>> The one-time case - 'the first time you go from systemd X to systemd Y,
>>>> the system won't shut down cleanly' - does seem to affect stable release
>>>> upgrades, yeah.
>>>
>>> If anyone knows the values of X and Y where it's reproducible, please
>>> let us know.
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't recall :( But it's definitely happened to me twice
>> as I've tracked Rawhide on my desktop. I'll try and be more precise if
>> it happens again; I always previously just assumed the devs knew about
>> it.
> 
> 
> What is the exact symptoms encapsulated in "not shutdown cleanly?"

"can not connect to systembus" or some "connection refused"
somewhat in this direction

repaired with "kill 1"
but it is a little hard to google for a solution if you are sitting in
runlevel3 in front of the one and only machine you have currently

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