*countable infinities only

[drago01]

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
> drago01 wrote:
>> The advantages is that things just work (tm).
>
> They "just work" as long as you don't try to actually exercise one of the
> freedoms we stand for.

Which one?

> Or even just install an out-of-tree kernel module
> such as the ones from RPM Fusion.

You can disable secure boot (unless we find a better solution) ...
adding secure boot support won't make this any harder.

> I don't think this is something we should
> endorse, also because our endorsement may entice M$ to change away from the
> current situation ("Secure" Boot optional) which is certainly a compromise
> in their eyes.

I doubt that but well we both can't know that beforehand so this point is moot.

>> No one will stop you (or anyone else) from disabling it.
>
> It's as easy as setting an option in the firmware ("BIOS") setup, so I don't
> see why we can't just require it from everyone.

It is easy for you, for me, for pretty much everyone on this mailing
list but there are different types of users out there.
And you effectively want to limit those users to a proprietary OS
(they cannot even try our live images anymore).