Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

Richard W.M. Jones rjones at
Mon Jun 18 09:10:34 UTC 2012

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:07:08PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/18/2012 01:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:10:32AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 06:49:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>> You're asserting that dbus-daemon etc cannot be restarted, but without
> >>> saying why.
> >>
> >> Because designing an asynchronous messaging bus that can be restarted 
> >> without losing any messages is a difficult problem.
> > 
> > If only Red Hat was involved in writing one ...
> > 
> > Oh wait, what's this?
> Unless, you can change d-bus to do this while retaining the features, it
> isn't very relevant to the discussion.

What we shouldn't do is break things further by making almost all
updates require a reboot.

I believe there is or was an effort to replace dbus by something
AMQP-based.  However I can't find that right now.


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