Size of official media handouts (was Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo)
jreznik at redhat.com
Mon May 14 13:21:30 UTC 2012
----- Original Message -----
> Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2012, 11:57 -0400 schrieb Adam Jackson:
> > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 13:35 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > Alexander Larsson wrote:
> > > > > The feature page lists some of the background and statistics.
> > > > > It also
> > > > > lists some options in how to implement this, which all have
> > > > > various
> > > > > different pros and cons. I'd like to hear what peoples
> > > > > opinions on these
> > > > > are.
> > > >
> > > > There is no room left on the KDE live image for installing any
> > > > sort of
> > > > debugging information by default.
> > >
> > > We could easily drop some of less-than-half-complete translations
> > > to
> > > make room for a bit of minidebuginfo. Last time I looked,
> > > translations,
> > > fonts, etc made up upwards of 25% of the livecd. Or we could just
> > > drop
> > > the obsolescent cdrom size limitation...
> > I know I've said this before, but: we should break the CD size
> > barrier
> > precisely so people can't burn things to CDs. If you must burn to
> > optical media, do yourself a favor and burn a DVD, the reduced seek
> > time
> > is entirely worth it.
> > 1G fits on both the smallest MiniDVD format and most extant USB
> > sticks.
> > Let's do it already.
> As an ambassador and former EMEA media wrangler I tend to agree.
> Currently both EMEA and NA only do dual layer DVDs, both for live and
> the installer. EMEA did separate installer vor i386 and x86_64, but
> after NA had no problems with exclusively providing dual layer, we
> decided to do the same.
> This being said I don't care how big we grow as long as we can still
> all 4 desktops (GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE) in 2 arches each on one multi
> desktop live image. A dual layer DVD has a maximum capacity of 8.5
> so fitting 8 x 1 GB is not a problem.
> We might have to drop Sugar, but if only GNOME and KDE go for 1 GB
> Xfce and LXDE still target 700 MB or less, we should even be able to
> keep it.
> This being said I am +1 for 1 GB, but please note that I only speak
> myself or the NA and EMEA ambassadors.
It's probably good idea to bring it on Ambassadors list - to ask non
EMEA and NA ambassadors as they are closest to real users (and theirs
needs to distribute stuff).
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