Rawhide boot problems

Jon Ciesla limburgher at gmail.com
Fri Sep 7 16:58:14 UTC 2012

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 18:30:10 +0200,
>   Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29.08.12 08:44, Jim Meyering (jim at meyering.net) wrote:
>> So this happened because somebody updated the Rawhide package, which
>> disabled package inheritance from F18. I have now untagged the package
>> in Rawhide again, and added a notice to the .spec file so that people
>> don't go and blindly update the package in Rawhide, but instead just let
>> inheritance between F18 and Rawhide do its work.
> That won't interact well with mass rebuilds.
>> Honestly, I think Fedora got the branches all backwards. Instead of
>> carrying around master all the time we should just have the version
>> branches and whenever somebody needs a new version branch he should just
>> branch of the most recent one. Right now "master" is for many packages
>> mostly dead territory between the time where a version got forked off
>> (but is not yet released) and the time where people actually start
>> working on the next distribution version.
> I actually wish people would stop doing updates just for branched and not
> doing new rawhide builds. This is especially bad during freezes (and the
> current one has been very long), as rawhide doesn't inherit from
> updates-testing, so you don't automagicly get fixes. For now I have enabled
> updates-testing for 18 in addition to rawhide for my rawhide machine, in
> order to get a lot of the gnome related stuff.
> I think our policy is that you should do rawhide builds, but at least some
> significant groups of packagers actively don't do rawhide builds. If that is
> going to continue, we should consider having rawhide inherit from
> updates-testing.

I personally always do, and advise it as well.  It's not like it
wastes space, rawhide gets pruned pretty aggressively.  And it saves
so much pain later.


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