RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk)

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:38:54 -0400,
   Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
>Obviously, no-bundled-libs is a crucial part of the packaging guidelines
>today. As a sysadmin, I know why it's important. This is not just a noble
>goal, but also something that pragmatically makes systems better. But, it's
>also keeping us from having software that people really use in Fedora. Chef
>and Hadoop are two big examples. This hurts us more than it helps the world.
>So, in some areas, we need a different approach.

I'm a bit worried about this. We really want bundled libs to eventually 
go away (for any particular bundled lib). This seems like it could 
encourage permanently bundled libs. That is going to make some packages 
conflicting for a very long time. (And the conflicting packages may not 
be providing the same service, so that you'd need to run two instances 
of Fedora to get both sets of services.)