Minimal install diff from F16 to F19 (TC6)

Matthew Miller mattdm at
Thu Jun 20 15:01:06 UTC 2013

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:52:54AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> And why is NetworkManager and firewalld in the minimal install?

We are on track to replace the "legacy" network and firewall init scripts
with these. It's a slow track, but that's the direction.

Overall, I'm in favor of having a single code path for network and firewall
configuration. As I understand from the NetworkManager developers, a mode
where NetworkManager does the basic configuration in the initramfs and then
goes away is in development. If that can also hand-off to a simple dhcp
client, I think we're in pretty good shape for the simple case.

Here's my RFE

Firewalld needs a *lot* more work in this area. Here's _that_ RFE:

As discussed before the F18 release, firewalld was initially proposed as a
"default" for F18, but actually crept in as mandatory, since Anaconda uses
it. One can remove it after the install, or in kickstart post.

And you're absolutely right to focus in this, as these two packages are
definitely the cause of most of the growth in minimal, and pull in most of
the odd stuff that doesn't feel like it belongs at that level. So, in
addition to the above, reducing/splitting the dependencies would be

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