Improving the Fedora boot experience -> no plymouth!

[Dan Mashal]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
>>
>> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
>>>> Von: Máirín Duffy
>>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>>>>> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that
>>>> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK glyphs to
>>>> the screen at this point in the boot process? I'm not quite sure that's
>>>> possible? Another thing with translations is they take up additional
>>>> disk space and I think (don't quote me on this, maybe Peter or one of
>>>> the other grub experts could speak up) grub2 is a bit chubby compared to
>>>> grub, but its space usage is a concern so to not have to have all the
>>>> translation files for the languages we support would definitely be good.
>>>> (grub2's girth is one of the reasons - on upstream's recommendation -
>>>> that we don't allow installing the bootloader to a partition now.)
>>>
>>> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to
>>> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines:
>>> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader"
>>
>> Plymouth is not a mandatory boot process element right now, precisely
>> because people who cared about fast boot found it unnecessary, and people
>> who cared about maintainability also found it got in the way. Please do
>> not advocate hardwiring it again
>
> plymouth is a no-go as requirement
>
> "rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0" are my first kernel params on a lot of machines
>
> [root at srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/90-plymouth.conf
> omit_dracutmodules+="plymouth"
>
> is present on ANY machine i maintain
>
> the only thing i want on a machine is:
> * no graphical stuff at boot time, not any of it
> * no submenus in the boot-menu
> * the kernel list dispalyed for 1 second
> * no rhgb
> * no quiet
>
> why?
>
> because i want to see what me system does if i look how it
> boots up within 15 seconds and i want to face ANY possible
> warning nobody cares especially after a upgrade
>
>
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Fedora boot process MUST look pretty!

Dan