Improving the Fedora boot experience -> no plymouth!

[Philip Rhoades]

On 2013-03-13 00:06, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
>> 
>> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
>>>> Von: Máirín Duffy
>>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>>>>> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to 
>>>>> present?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at 
>>>> that
>>>> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK 
>>>> glyphs to
>>>> the screen at this point in the boot process? I'm not quite sure 
>>>> that's
>>>> possible? Another thing with translations is they take up 
>>>> additional
>>>> disk space and I think (don't quote me on this, maybe Peter or one 
>>>> of
>>>> the other grub experts could speak up) grub2 is a bit chubby 
>>>> compared to
>>>> grub, but its space usage is a concern so to not have to have all 
>>>> the
>>>> translation files for the languages we support would definitely be 
>>>> good.
>>>> (grub2's girth is one of the reasons - on upstream's recommendation 
>>>> -
>>>> that we don't allow installing the bootloader to a partition now.)
>>> 
>>> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut 
>>> to
>>> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the 
>>> lines:
>>> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader"
>> 
>> Plymouth is not a mandatory boot process element right now, precisely
>> because people who cared about fast boot found it unnecessary, and 
>> people
>> who cared about maintainability also found it got in the way. Please 
>> do
>> not advocate hardwiring it again
> 
> plymouth is a no-go as requirement
> 
> "rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0" are my first kernel params on a lot
> of machines
> 
> [root at srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/90-plymouth.conf
> omit_dracutmodules+="plymouth"
> 
> is present on ANY machine i maintain
> 
> the only thing i want on a machine is:
> * no graphical stuff at boot time, not any of it
> * no submenus in the boot-menu
> * the kernel list dispalyed for 1 second
> * no rhgb
> * no quiet
> 
> why?
> 
> because i want to see what me system does if i look how it
> boots up within 15 seconds and i want to face ANY possible
> warning nobody cares especially after a upgrade


+1

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