Unhelpful update descriptions

[Dan Mashal]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin at scrye.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:29:03 -0700
> Dan Mashal <dan.mashal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Mashal <dan.mashal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik
>> > <jreznik at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
>> >>
>> >> Yep, I think the link, when available, is very useful. What I try
>> >> is to pick up a few most important changes directly affecting
>> >> Fedora and then I link full Changelog.
>> >>
>> >> So maybe idea - what about a dedicated field in Bodhi for
>> >> upstream's Changelog and then present it for users in PackageKit
>> >> in a some nicer way - real, clickable link... Not sure it will be
>> >> possible in our Packaging GUIs and also we try to hide updates as
>> >> much as possible from our users...
>
> ...snip...
>
> I'm not sure either, but it could be nice to see. I'd guess it would
> have to be a per update optional field, since some upstreams do a
> different url per release. I don't know how or if PackageKit could
> display it. Perhaps file some RFEs?
>
>> > Have bodhi grab it from the RPM change log spec file. Don't make
>> > packager do more work than they already have to.
>
> Grab what? It doesn't know what part of things is the upstream
> changelog link (if any).
>
>> In fact Koji does this and is a place where I go to get more info and
>> does this already. You can even get compilation logs! ;)
>
> I suspect many consumers of our updates don't care about compile logs.
> They would rather see what many projects put in their NEWS file.
> (ie, changes they might notice or care about).
>
>> Bodhi never seemed like a tool to be informative. Just push out
>> updates.
>
> I'm not sure I agree. ;)
>
> kevin
>
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Agree to disagree. I care about compilation logs! :P

I will try and include NEWS (if any) from now on.

Dan