Red Hat and Fedora Working Groups

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 10/04/2013 06:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:14:27PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> Why should the community participate in this when it turns out that
>> the the whole WG and the next proposal is nothing but an utter and
>> total sheninagan on RH behalf as came apparent on last FESCO meeting
> Jóhann, you're taking one out-of-context quote from one FESCo member,
> reading too much into it, and building an alarmist story around it.
>    
> This is absolutely a real community process. Red Hat members of the working
> groups can make their merit-based cases the same way as anyone else, and if
> they can't show that merit to the community, they don't get a special trump
> card. They will have to find another way to advance their cause.
>
> You may think that this is just talk, but I promise you it isn't. Fedora
> provides value to Red Hat in many different ways, but genuine community
> voice is among the most crucial. If that voice tells us one thing and we
> can't listen, that's our failure, our loss -- and not what's going to happen
> here.
>
> It's completely fair for Red Hat -- and Red Hatters -- to talk about what
> directions in Fedora we think would be most beneficial to the company, and
> about the resources -- time, money, people, and so on -- that we could bring
> to bear in certain directions (and probably won't in other directions). If
> we clearly talk about that, and about the technical merit of directions
> proposed, and we can't be convincing, and can't adapt what we're proposing
> to become convincing... well, we have some soul-searching to do.

And those words coming from a man who just back stabbed a man he went 
into feature process with and left him hanging ( Lennart ).

Am I and the rest of the community supposed trust what you suddenly say 
and claim now?

JBG