Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
> My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this
> list which
> seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
> think should be payed
> for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora community
> in return.
> 
> The relationship between Red Hat and Fedora is very different from that of
> for instance Debian and Ubuntu,
> with Red Hat being a lot more directly involved in both contributing to
> Fedora and paying for the
> general upkeep of Fedora. Personally I always felt that this symbiotic
> relationship was a big part of
> what made Fedora interesting.

+1 and I still think it works pretty well - Red Hat has a nice space to
do work on the future RHELs in open way (not like other so called open 
companies), community can contribute where there's interest.

Btw. I'm not saying there are no issues, or sometimes more misunderstandings
that always could be resolved.

> So in regards to the spins, which my original response didn't really try to
> address, I think they should all become remixes
> and I think we should try to build an infrastructure where doing a remix is
> as easy as possible.
> For example, in theory I think the Fedora project could provide some kind of
> web hosting space for the remixes, to reduce the burden/threshold
> for remix maintainers

And we call these spins now.

> , but I do also see that there are legal and
> administrative reasons for why that could be a bad idea, but I am sure that
> with
> some discussion and investigation there are solutions that can be found to
> these practical challenges.

That's one idea behind remixes - make it as easy as possible to remix Fedora
outside of Fedora space to avoid legal issues. 

Jaroslav

> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "piruthiviraj natarajan" <piruthiviraj at gmail.com>
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> > <devel at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:29:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Christian Schaller < cschalle at redhat.com >
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I mean to say is that Red Hat has a business motive to support the
> > Fedora community,
> > if supporting Fedora was a pure act of charity then I think organizations
> > like the Red Cross
> > or Unicef would have a much better chance of getting the money.
> > 
> > So if the Fedora community wants to not care about why Red Hat invests in
> > Fedora they are of course free to do so,
> > but it becomes quite disingenuous to later be surprised if Red Hat loses
> > interest in Fedora.
> > 
> > well this kind of strategy towards the community is not very inspiring for
> > the new contributors, is it?
> > I think there is interest in the fedora community for Gnome as well as
> > other
> > DE which RHEL doesn't ship.
> > But since this thread has been moving in a direction where the Fedora spins
> > are under threat to exist in the repos doesn't bode well for the packages
> > that is not of interest to red hat.
> > 
> > 
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