F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Jon Kent jon.kent at gmail.com
Sat Jun 14 12:45:09 UTC 2014


Concerns me greatly when someone thinks cli is the wrong way to automate
things. Agree Reindl comment 're this statement.
On 14 Jun 2014 13:41, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:

>
> Am 14.06.2014 14:31, schrieb drago01:
> > And recently there is even a trend where people (and the press)
> > complains "lack of change == lack of innovation" ... that does not
> > mean that we should do changes for the sake of doing changes but we
> > should not be afraid of doing so either.
>
> the same sort of people who complain about business numbers
> bad because only a few hundret millions more income than
> the year before
>
> >> you can rename internal functions, move code, use different
> >> libraries all day long, but if it comes to command lines and
> >> user interfaces (CLI params are a user interface) you need
> >> always to be very careful
> >
> > Depends obscure options that are hardly used by the majority of users
> > are different from common options that everyone uses.
>
> "dnf remove yum dnf kernel" ruins your system
> yum don't allow that for good reasons
>
> that's unacepptable behavior and was refused to change
>
> dnf needs much more RAM currently while the feature page
> pretends it has a smaller footprint - so it's not ready
> or the feature page is a "would nice to be" not backed
> by the reality
>
> > FWIW using a CLI interface to automate things is imo the wrong
> > approach if there is an api that can be used instead (cleaner, less
> > hacky, more efficient, etc) (and yes this changes here too, because
> > the old API was really horrible but that's not the point)
>
> no idea what is your daily job, sysadmin obviously not
>
> shell scripts are the Unix way and overall more efficient
> just because you write tiny scripts for different tasks
> and plug them together - efficient is not only a matter
> of runtime measure
>
>
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