Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

[Danishka Navin]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Christopher <ctubbsii-fedora at apache.org>
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Lips <johannes.lips at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii-fedora at apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>>>> >> Lars Seipel wrote:
>>>> >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
>>>> >>> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> No!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in
>>>> >> favor of
>>>> >> Epiphany for Workstation and Midori for the Spins (except the KDE
>>>> Spin
>>>> >> which
>>>> >> already ships Konqueror as the browser)
>>>> >
>>>> > NO!
>>>> >
>>>> > * i don't see that crap at all
>>>> > * even if i could disable it (or maybe have it in about:config)
>>>> > * i want to use Firefox for thousand reasons
>>>> >
>>>> > it's *not* freedom to remove Firefox
>>>> > freedom would be make it not default but still offer it
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Disabling the ADs feature from firefox, if that is possible, would be
>>>> the right move for Fedora.
>>>>
>>>> We also could lobby mozilla to re-consider this decision.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't really understand the issue at all. We also don't have any
>> problems offering google or any other search engine with our default
>> configuration in firefox. But if a truly open-source foundation implements
>> something to generate some revenue, which will most probably help the
>> development of open source software, it suddenly becomes a big deal?
>>
>>
> I think the main difference is that it collects personal data and gives
> that information to for-profit companies, as a default configuration,
> without a user first "opting in" to that sort of data sharing. It is
> supposedly sanitized of user-identifying information, but a user should be
> given the option of deciding whether that sanitization is sufficient for
> them. Yes, Mozilla is "open source", but that's not the same as "free
> software" in every sense of the word, and people are wanting more from
> their free software, such as better control over their personal data, and
> the idea of privacy is working its way into some definitions of "free".
>
> I don't necessarily see any reason to lobby Mozilla to change their
> decision... I think it's fine for them to do what they are doing. They
> might be welcome to a suggestion to include an installer/download option to
> give their direct download users some better controls over this feature (if
> they haven't done so already). But for Fedora, I think it makes sense to
> disable it by default, and if that is done, I don't see any issue. If
> Mozilla had a "first use" setup option to control this feature, then I
> would even say that it's not needed for Fedora to even bother doing
> anything. So, maybe that's something that could be brought up with Mozilla
> (if it doesn't already exist).
>


Would be nice if we replace booking.com and other organizational
advertising with Fedora related projects and technologies?



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>>> +1
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rejy M Cyriac (rmc)
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